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Valued Member
United States
321 Posts |
An 1884 morgan I have exhibits these slightly brown parallel lines on the chin when angled against the light.  I was thinking an old rub?
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Moderator
 United States
23731 Posts |
Can you take a picture of the entire coin? If difficult to say what those line are from just the close-up image.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2120 Posts |
They look like friction lines to me TBH. not to mention there are a lot of nicks and bag marks.
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Valued Member
 United States
321 Posts |
The problem is...  They barely show on a straight on shot. Does this help at all?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1534 Posts |
Rub is wear, usually appearing when circulated or spent. Your Morgan doesn't seem to have any wear, which is basically rub, so in my opinion it is MS.
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Valued Member
 United States
321 Posts |
Ok but what are those marks? They're different from any other marks on the coin and isolated on the jaw.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7840 Posts |
Is that 1884 an "S"?  Overall great appeal to me! 
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Rest in Peace
United States
5375 Posts |
Probably slid against something a long time ago.
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Valued Member
 United States
321 Posts |
O Lord no. Haha, its 1884-O.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1882 Posts |
Quote: They're different from any other marks on the coin and isolated on the jaw. Unless you are talking about some marks I can't see, they look the same as the lines between the stars near the chin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
613 Posts |
How about the flat spot in the hair just above the ear, is that rub or normal?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3076 Posts |
I think the lines by the stars are FLOW lines the metal flowing under extreme heat from the pressure of the coining, though Zeewool could fill you more in on that part..the marks on the chin ever so small in had are some kind of friction from something , even a cloth mark as some coins were kept in drawers..
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Moderator
 United States
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Those lines look the same as the ones by the stars, they could be flows lines as aladinslamp pointed out.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Thats another possibility, too.
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Valued Member
 United States
321 Posts |
All good possibilities, originally I was thinking thumbed because of how PCGS describes a thumbed coin. Quote:One common variation of nose grease is a process called thumbing, which is used mainly on silver dollars. In this process, the skin oils are rubbed across the desired area, with the thumb acting like a brush, rubbing the oils into the "skin" of the coin. This method is often used to obscure shiny lines or marks on the face of Miss Liberty on Morgan and Peace dollars, and is sometimes so minor that it is nearly undetectable. When the coin is tilted under a good light source, the marks or hairlines that have been obscured by the thumbing are visible. http://64.94.212.249/articles/artic...d=313&type=1This could explain why I can only see the hairlines at an angle and also that they are brown due to finger oils. But yes they look a lot like flow lines. Its just weird to see flow lines in the face.
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Pillar of the Community
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thats an interesting Idea, and more plausable, and unlikely flowlines on the face in just one minor location
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