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 Posted 07/14/2010  7:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mrwisker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
As some people have seen (in my signature) I just started compiling a Peace dollar Dansco.
Although I know and have heard the downside to ebay.
I still like to look through them for information and ballpark value.
What I have noticed though, is the price of 1928 Peace dollars is so squirrely, that getting an average or "ballpark" value is impossible.
I've seen AU pieces ranging from 25.00 to 300.00+
That is a huge gap.
It makes me want to rethink buying this piece from a show or dealer.
Last week I was shown a 28 where the asking price was 400.00 (for borderline fine piece)
After seeing the prices on completed listings on the bay, Unless I am purchasing an higher quality piece and want to have it in hand, I will strongly consider getting a reasonably nice piece from the bay.
I'm thinking that even though a dealer that doesn't think twice about beating you over the head about "they go for xxx amount on ebay" wouldn't take to kindly to "the last one I saw in that condition only went for 35.00"
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 Posted 07/14/2010  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's some nice data you collected there. I think it shows the hard line between book value and worth. Dealers would never admit that a coin's value went down because that would mean losing money.
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 Posted 07/14/2010  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
supply and demand...alot of collectors are not even looking at key dates....while dealers scap these up and sell them for hundreds more!
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 Posted 07/14/2010  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mrwisker

Interesting, yesterday I picked up three new Dansco albums, one is for Peace dollars.
In my efforts to organize my collection, I switch from a old Library of Coins album.

Over the years I have picked up a few Peace dollars, out of the junk silver box, when I see one that is not to bad.

So now I have a new Dansco album that needs 8 more to have it filled.

If I saw a AU 1928 for less than $50.00 .. I am would buy it. Same if I saw a AU 1921.
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 Posted 07/14/2010  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiepb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a hard time using ebay to determine "value" due to the wide range of junk out there. You could be getting a nice piece or be getting ripped off. It's too hard to know until you see the coin. I got burned years ago with one of the bogus slabs and haven't been back there for any coin purchases.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twincam_04 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've bought bogus slabs for the simple fact I can get a year set in decent shape for just a few bucks- only once have I had a set come to me with a cleaned coin.. mostly just nice examples of coins with some wear or scratches, in MS70 holders, lol .. most barely make AU, but what I'm doing right now, thats fine with me

I'm finding pre-64 sets like this for $5-7, the dime and quarter are worth 4 bucks or so melt- the penny and nickel are a bonus

call me crazy, but I've been lucky so far
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I guess the WORTH,, meaning what is worth to pay,AND the Down side econemy...means they are selling for less across the board, how ever you still have to be sure on the grade your receiving..with ebay Pics, you can never be sure until its in your hands.... That being said its more like a buyers market than a sellers market, and with the grading standards tightening up.....what truely is the value of any graded coin? I can only guess its what you pay for it...the current PCGS price guide is way over what coins are selling for now..I won't go into that now, but the worth issue you bring forth is just that....the grade you really think it is, and the grade they say it is...and there is lots of room for discrepentcy here...SO I have no concret answere here as the market is to turblent to put a concrete answer..if you find a nice coin for a great price then I guess its a win!!I surely don't want to sell right now......but I have found many a good buy!!
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 Posted 07/15/2010  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I've seen AU pieces ranging from 25.00 to 300.00+


I think that you need to look a whole lot 'closer' then.

There is a little thing called a 'mint mark' that distinguishes a $25 coin from a $300 one.

You have never seen an AU 1928 Peace sell on ebay for anywhere even near $25-$35, never, unless it has an "S" mint mark. I don't even need to collect Peace dollar (which I don't) to know that.

All of this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the state of the economy, rather, it has everything to do with coin identification.

1928 Peace ( no mint mark) in AU = $250-$350
1928 Peace ( S mint mark) in AU = $25--$35
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Yeah, the only way I could see a 1928 AU peace selling for $25-$35 would be if it was of questionable authenticity (it might be a fake).
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 Posted 07/15/2010  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

I have a hard time using ebay to determine "value" due to the wide range of junk out there. You could be getting a nice piece or be getting ripped off. It's too hard to know until you see the coin. I got burned years ago with one of the bogus slabs and haven't been back there for any coin purchases.


In my opinion most sellers are good honest people. ebay has mostly earned their bad reputation due to new collectors buying there without having any knowledge of coins and then flaming ebay. If you know how to grade and authenticate coins well enough, then ebay is fine.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiepb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wheatguy,
I will concede that when I made my purchase it was years ago and I did know considerably less than I do now. Given that, perhaps I should give ebay another chance, might even find a good deal.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zazenboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
okiepb, like with any hobby you've got to do your homework especially before shelling out significant coin on a piece that might be overgraded or even misidentified. With ebay, the common characteristics I check for are a seller's honesty, reputation, length of service, and return policy (if any.) Return policy is important, since even high magnification imaging will not always show the slight rub on the highest points of a coin, as these will be AU/BU unc sliders that are often listed as choice and gem "BU." get to know well the particular wear characteristics of the coins you are collecting. e-Bay has gotten a lot safer to buy on now, since there are major buyer protections put in place just in the last year, so you might give them another try. Probably every collector got burned by an unscrupulous dealer at the beginning, mine was a mail order large cent when I was 11. What came in the mail was a blackened, pitted and otherwise damaged 1844 cent, which could barely be recognized as such, which I keep in my desk to this day to remind me of this "learning experience!"
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07/15/2010 7:19 pm
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 Posted 07/15/2010  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add regularguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with zazenboy when he said that you have to do your homework before you make a coin purchase. I completed a Peace dollar set about six years ago. It probably took me about that same time to acquire all the coins. I purchased from different sources, but I always knew what price range and condition I was comfortable with before making a purchase. None of these coins were purchased from ebay. Most came from coin shows, trusted dealers, large and reputable coin companies, and live auctions.
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 Posted 07/18/2010  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A word to the wise from this longtime collector ... Be extra careful when buying a 1928 $1. It's quite often altered from a 1928-S. After removing that tiny S mintmark, the coin is recolored, stained and/or excessively dipped so as to mask the tiny, repaired pothole. So, fleamarketers beware ... Buy these from a reputable dealer.

On another note, like the 1938-D Walkers, the 1928 Peace $1's are over-priced "rarities" in the marketplace. One PA dealer I visited in March had over twenty 1928's in his NEWP box. A dealer at the FUN Show had fourteen rolls of those 1938-D Walkers, too. Why are they priced so high? Popular hole-fillers, is my guess, for well-designed sets that can be completed on a modest budget.
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