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Eurocoin Valued Member Finland 294 Posts	Posted 08/05/2010 1:28 pm Because I'm collecting world coins by type (KM types) I have met one little problem. Usually when mint marks and initials change the coin type stays the same. But in Krause, in Danish coins section they have created a new (sub)type everytime when the initials have changed. For example these two five ore coins from 1973 (initials S;B, KM 859.1) and 1980 (initials B;B, KM 859.2): http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=6512781.jpg In other countries Krause just puts all the initials below one type. Are the Danish Krause experts just narrowminded or what does cause this? Another problem in the same area: Finnish 2 euro coins dated 2007 and 2010, mint mark is in different places (red circles in the picture). Are these different types or just variants of the same type? http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=6512739.jpg Edited by Eurocoin 08/05/2010 1:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Jays-Dad Pillar of the Community United States 790 Posts	Posted 08/05/2010 5:39 pm Try French coins before about 1865. Every mint has a different KM#. There were a LOT of mints used in France. I think that the Krause was compiled by "experts" from each country. I suspect they were given a list of "rules" for assigning numbers and some people read the rules a little different. Though the rules of numbering sort of make sense, you'll find weird differences all over the book. Try America for example, quarters were KM164 when silver, then KM164a when clad. So far it follows the rules of Krause as used in other countries. In 1975-76 the design changed and is reflected in KM204. Then in 1977 the older design was resumed exactly as before 1975 and the KM# was now new, KMA164a. Other countries have stuck in commemoratives or other designs in a series and picked up the series again but I don't think any other country does this KMA thing to indicate the resumption of a series. Good luck. What does a "new" KM# mean? Let us all know if you can figure that one out. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16826 Posts	Posted 08/05/2010 6:14 pm In the case of Denmark, I think Krause simply hasn't reformed the numbering recently. Krause does seem to be (slowly) going through the book and eliminating subtypes based on mintmarks and mintmaster initials. A good example is Germany. My first Krause catalogue (1987 edition) had different subtypes for each mintmark: KM# 1.1 for Berlin mintmark A, KM# 1.2 for Hannover mintmark B, and so forth. By the time I'd upgraded to the 1996 edition, they'd eliminated the mintmark-based subtypes and just listed KM# 1 with all the mintmarks listed together. As for the Finnish 2 euros, I would consider an actual relocated mintmark to be enough of a difference to qualify as a different sub-type. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Eurocoin Valued Member Finland 294 Posts	Posted 08/09/2010 02:57 am Thanks Jays-Dad and Sap! I didn't take into account time factor at all but now this mystery looks much clearer . Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 08/09/2010 03:39 am The best thing is to define your own "catalog number". I personally dislike Krause's numbering. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
Eurocoin Valued Member Finland 294 Posts	Posted 08/09/2010 04:55 am Quote: The best thing is to define your own "catalog number" That's so true. Sometimes collectors just forget that they should collect only for themselves - not for Krause or fellow collectors. Report this Post to the Staff
Zaggy Valued Member Australia 432 Posts	Posted 08/13/2010 05:17 am Very True GXSeries - although that said, it is easier to follow a well known, defined system so that you can communicate more easily... If Eurocoin was collecting ONLY from one or two countries, I'd suggest getting rid of the Krause and using whatever was the major catalogue for that area; ie, my interests are German Reich and Australian Pre-Decimal, so for the German Stuff, I use the Jaeger Katalognummer (although I also have Michel, Beckenbauer, EPA, Schaaf and other Katalogs) and Australian stuff is usually referenced to the MacDonalds Catalogue (which doesn't actually use a numbering system anyway - same as the 'other' Australian Catalogue, the Rennicks Catalogue)... But like you say Eurocoin, you're collecting for yourself; so I say, make up your own rules. If you feel that Krause has it wrong, don't worry about collecting the sub-types! I've done that with some of my Australian Pre-decimal collection :) Report this Post to the Staff
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