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 Posted 08/06/2010  7:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I have a few older 1 cent coins (1940's 1950's and 1960's) some of them are hard to read because of dirt on them. Is it OK to clean them with warm water? no chemicals, just some water from my sink. (I would say they all range from F-EF or so). I am new to grading coins, but I have looked at that coinoisseur grading guide. (I also looked through some other people asking grades of there coins and I am usually off by a few points. So I think I am doing alright Although, the MS grades are really hard to tell.)

Anyways, Thanks.

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08/06/2010 7:06 pm
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 Posted 08/06/2010  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waredu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you're talking about just soaking them - use distilled, not tap, water. Tap water has all kinds of nasty chemicals in it(well, nasty to coins anyway). Don't scrub them with anything as the dirt you're scrubbing off will be tough enough to scratch the coin.
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 Posted 08/06/2010  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, so water from a filter would be fine? And, can I try to wipe the dirt of with my hands? Or is that bad to?
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 Posted 08/06/2010  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waredu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, filtered water isn't the same as distilled. Distilled water is pure H2O. Depending on the filter, it might not remove enough. Distilled water at the grocery store is usually pretty cheap.

And no, I wouldn't wipe at all. Anything that causes friction is liable to scratch the coin. Gentle rinsing in distilled water and acetone is all I ever do with coins I want to keep. I know plenty of people that would disagree with me though.
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 Posted 08/06/2010  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Waredu, I am not sure if my filter would get rid of every thing so I will not wash my coins.

Thanks again for your help.
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 Posted 08/06/2010  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Koin Hunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How To Clean Coins
To clean coins is not recommended, but if you really feel you must be cleaning your coins, follow the steps described below to minimize the risk of damaging them. Never use metal polish to clean your coins!

About the only time I can think of when you would normally want to clean coins would be if you wanted to help a youngster begin a coin collection from circulating coins. A good example.. Circulating coins can be filthy and carry germs, and this is the only instance in which an amateur should clean coins.
Time Required: About 10 - 15 minutes to clean a batch of 30 coins
Here's How:
Wash your hands with soap.
Washing up will remove the oils and tiny grit from your fingers.

Lay down a soft towel.
Place a soft cloth or towel, folded over a couple of times, on your working surface to catch coins you might drop, and to provide a space for them to dry.

Set up your soapy bath.
Fill a small plastic container with warm tap water. Do not use glass, china, or metal, as these hard surfaces can scratch your coins! Disposable food storage containers are perfect for this. Just don't store your coins in them permanently. Add a small amout of mild dish-washing detergent to the container filled with warm water. Don't overdo it - all you need is a really tiny squirt.

Prepare your final rinse bath.
Fill a second plastic container with distilled water, for the final rinse. Although distilled water is by far the best, you can substitute hot running tap water.

Clean the coin.
Pick up the first coin, and immerse it in the soapy water. Gently rub both sides of the coin between your fingers, paying attention to any stickiness or gunk. Rub gunk near the edges away from the center of the coin, not into it. Always work in an outward pattern. Dirt and gunk near the edges should simply be made to go over the side with your thumb, not all the way across the coin. Don't put all of your coins in the water at once! Do them one at a time, to avoid their coming in contact with each other and causing scratch marks on the surfaces.

Rinse the coin.
Rinse the coin under running water, gently rubbing until all soap residue is gone. Always remember, gentleness is the key! Don't rub hard, and if you feel any grit, even light grit, don't rub it into the coin because it will scratch the coin very easily. Instead, sort of agitate the coin by moving it quickly in the water to dislodge the grit, touch it gently only if needed to free it up.

Every motion you make with your fingers should be focused on not causing scratches to the coin's surface.

Do the finishing rinse.
Swish the coin around in the distilled water, to remove the chlorine residue and other contaminants that are found in tap water. Hold it by the edges and agitate gently. At this point, you should no longer touch the coin on its faces. Touch it only by the edges when using your bare fingers.

If you must use tap water for the final rinse, then run the coin under fairly hot water.

Allow the coin to dry.
If you use a distilled water rinse, you can set the coin on the towel to air dry. The coin should dry spot-free, because distilled water is free of dissolved minerals and other impurities.

If you had to do the final rinse in hot tap water, then gently pat the coin dry to help prevent spotting. Never rub a coin dry! Always pat it dry gently with a soft cloth or tissue.

Repeat until finished.
Now wash the rest of your coins, one at a time, following Steps 5 through 8 carefully. If you run across a coin that needs to soak for awhile to get clean, put it in the tub of water off to the side, so you don't accidentally ding it with another coin you are working on.

Store your coins.
Make sure your coins are absolutely dry before putting them away. Damp coins can suffer damage over time. Remember to always handle coins only by the edges. The only coins I ever touch the faces on are the ones I am about to spend! :)

Tips:
Never try to remove the natural oxidation from coins, such as the tarnish on silver. This is called "toning" and the coin is worth more with it intact. Removing it will damage the coin's surface and greatly reduce its value. In other words, no dipping, polishing, or chemical solutions should ever be used on coins.hope this helps
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 Posted 08/06/2010  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for taking the time to write this out.
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 Posted 08/06/2010  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennylover1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Thank you very much for taking the time to write this out.


LOL. He didn't spend any time! It's a copy/paste from http://coins.about.com/od/caringfor...eancoins.htm

Maybe he just forgot to give credit.
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 Posted 08/06/2010  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Koin Hunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What great advice Penny lover....next time one of our members needs a little info...when I go and spend the time to the home work for them...I will just copy and paste the web addy...like you did....your a very smart man...
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 Posted 08/06/2010  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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LOL. He didn't spend any time! It's a copy/paste from http://coins.about.com/od/caringfor...eancoins.htm

Maybe he just forgot to give credit.


Oh.
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 Posted 08/07/2010  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add guppie1160 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Though he may not have given due credit never the less he did answer the question in a manner that is easy to understand :) so I am sure canadian-Banknotes will feel better about attempting the process...just remember canadian any thing that may have a value over BV don't attempt to clean not worth chancing damage to your coins
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 Posted 08/07/2010  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guppie1160. Most of the coins I wanted to clean were some older pennies that I had found, nothing special. But I wont be cleaning anything that has a value beyond BV.
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 Posted 08/07/2010  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In today's coin collecting inventory, I find most coins have been cleaned in one way or the other. First we have the extremes, the collectors with no experience who grab an S.O.S. pad with a dab of Brasol and scrub away, then we have the advanced/professional collectors that discretely dip their pieces in solutions to make the eye appeal better/whiter. (so they think)
Think about it for a minute, reach into your pocket change and pull out late dated coins ie:2006-2009 pennies and see the tarnish on them. Now log onto E-bay and see how many Mintstate Large cents that are 100+ years old that have 80 % red on 'em? How can that be, you just pulled a half dozen late cents out of your pocket that are tarnished too Hell! So a 100+ year old cent remains 80% Red? HMMMMMMMMMM I'd say someone along the way played a few games with it.
I know that the Charlton Catalogue does treat dipped coins (especially silver) as uncleaned, as long as no hairlines appear. However, a silver coin that is blast white would not stay this way without help for 100+ years............and that's a fact. Saran wrap wasn't invented in Vicky's time, trust me. Anyhow, I just had to get this cleaning business out of my system.

Glenn
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 Posted 08/07/2010  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glenn,
YOU, as always, hit the nail on the head.
I was NOT aware that the big guys think that dipping is ok.....
in Europe light dipping is very acceptable...
long time not chat.... are you ok?
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