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Ebay- Morgan - Swamperbob

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http://cgi.ebay.com/1894-O-MS64-DMP...RE_W0QQitemZ220012231190QQihZ012QQcategoryZ39468QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This one is for you swamperbob what do you think. I have found this listed in another forum from another member. And thought You could Give some serious opionions on.. it looks nasty Photo and coin overall its a morgan. the reverse looks better than obverse
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looks like it has had a paint job but looks authentic to me, and when I say pain job I really mean paint job! My 5 year old daughter could do a better job than that. Kind of looks like they took that can of chrome spray paint to it. Maybe the guy thats bid up to 430.00 may be going to dip it. When I look at that thing closer.....is that one of them new ANACS slabs that thing is in? got a rounded bottom like they do anyhow. if it is in a ANACS holder then maybe someone did a job on the picture in photoshop (because if I recall correctly ANACS puts problem coins in the old style holders)
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Hummmm,I don't know about this one.Looks at the date and the "4" real close.Me thinks somethings rotton in Denmark.



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It says it's uncertified, so no ANACS holder. Probably just in a generic Intercept Shield or something of that sort.
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I can't put my finger on it, but something appears fishy....

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I agree either the photo was photoshopped or that coin was painted and either one could cause the "4" thing. But it still looks authentic to me and as always I could be wrong (I have been before and am sure I will be again)
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That is a most blatant case of Photoshop tinting, from a seller with a reputation for greasiness. Someone is going to be a very disappointed buyer, or, worse yet, not.
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even worse here is the out clause for the buyer towards the bottom it has Mint new orleans, and some other details the key is is says gold
Item Specifics - US coins
Certification: Uncertified Method of Manufacture: Business Strike
Mint: New Orleans Condition: Uncirculated
Material: Gold ----- lol -- I sure hope someone emails the buyer


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Looks as if it were done with a scanner. The photo editing software might not have been the best in the world either. I sent him a question as I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Some of my pics done with my scanner and my cheapy photo editing software look just like this. That is one reason I have only setup my albums on the gallery site but won't put up any pics from my scanner as it would only make my collection look horrible.
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For someone like myself who's fairly comfortable with Photoshop, the retouching in those images couldn't be more obvious. The guy snagged a color and airbrushed the cheek and fields, with no real sense of subtlety. Here's a quick example from my collection - I did this in five minutes especially for this post:

Ebay--Morgan---Swamperbob

Here's the same coin, before airbrushing:

Ebay--Morgan---Swamperbob

Give me a few minutes, and I'll do one right - that'll change your opinion of trusting auction pics.
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Dave,You hit the nail on the head with that one.Thas exactly what he did and I believe he changed the date by inserting the "4" also,and he did a poor job of that as well.He left it to big.WOW,it sold for $1025....
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Dave as I look at your craftsmanship , I would have to agree with you and TLS5933 that is axactly what was done in my opioion. Great job.. How mad would ebay get at a person,
and is it ethically right to email the buyer and make said person aware of the info A person might have come up with to discredit the sale because of something fishy. And did any one catch that out claus I mentioned that the person had listed it as gold. What do you think of that..
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scoutjim99,
I think the buyers going to find out real quick when he gets the coin in hand.
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Now, who's in the market for a nice MS65 1904 Morgan?

Ebay--Morgan---Swamperbob

That was 15 minutes' work, with a coin that I photographed for the express purpose of revealing every scratch.
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I told ya it was a legit photoshop job. there are some people that are really bad at it and some people like this guy that is really good at photoshop http://cgi.ebay.com/1884-CC-MORGAN-...PL_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/130011752801 target= _blank rel= nofollow 130011752801 /a QQihZ003QQcategoryZ39465QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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UGGGhHHH . I really hate ebay, and alot of the things that go on there...
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