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1945 Merc Grade

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 Posted 08/17/2010  02:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add delaner to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Alright friendly folks, I'm humbly submit your expertise here one more time... =)

What do you make of this 1945 Merc? I have an opportunity to purchase it, and I'm not a huge Mercury dime collector... Nonetheless, looks like a neat coin to me!

I wish the scans were bigger and better, alas, this is all I have to go from at the moment.

Thank you!

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 Posted 08/17/2010  03:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pinenut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks clean and a lot of detail in the hair on the obverse is a good sign that it is MS. But the kicker is whether the bands on the fasces are split. That cannot be discerned from the picture, though it looks promising.
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 Posted 08/17/2010  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afclassic87 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like au to ms. The picture is to small to grade any better than that. 1945 is a common merc so it should be rather cheep in a low ms state.
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 Posted 08/17/2010  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pinenut, the seller tells me that the bands are full, and is looking for money equivalent to that. Is this something that can be faked or reproduced?

I've offered to pay something near his asking price if the coin comes back graded as he claims the coin is, but I figured this isn't one to buy unless it's certified as such...
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 Posted 08/17/2010  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think its fake, but coin doctors can "tool" it to produce the full band appearance, so authentication is necessary if one's unsure.
If this coin comes out FSB, and depending on grade, it can cost 5 figures in solid MS.

delaner, did you see the coin in person ?
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 Posted 08/17/2010  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pinenut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm also concerned with his choice of language. "Full bands" could mean to him something different then the "Full split bands" that we are talking about.
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 Posted 08/17/2010  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes, full split bands... =)

No, I have not seen it in person yet. Trying to go slow with this one. Neat coin! We shall see. Thanks for the advice so far, welcome to as much as can come!
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 Posted 08/17/2010  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Napoleon31ft to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you cant see them do not buy it as a full split band. Its not worth paying a premium for something you cannot see. He might all so thing that split bands means the vertical bands. I wouldn't take the chance.
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 Posted 08/17/2010  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool. We've agreed to send the coin in to be certified, then agree to a price. What do you reckon it would graysheet at?
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 Posted 08/17/2010  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps have the person take better pictures, bigger and more contrast.
Will save you the trouble and $$ before submitting to TPG.
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 Posted 08/22/2010  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rkp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1945 merc is the rarest dime in the series to have split bands, let alone fully split bands. The ones that I have in mint state are completely flat so as to not even have a hint of split bands. I've looked through so much dealer stock and have never found a good example. Just based on my experience and probability alone, I would say that it does not have split bands. Also, this date is commonly found with tooling to simulate split bands. Be very careful!
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 Posted 08/25/2010  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcreek1968 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I concur with the move carefully assessment. Don't know what he is asking, but the FB vs FSB designations are very tricky. Let him pay for the TPG and if it comes back FSB, then you might find out it costs more than you have to spend and maybe you've missed out. Or you can go ahead and spring for a beauty. That might be better than shelling out the bucks and finding out it won't go FSB. I've seen so many at FSB that never make the grade. Good luck.
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