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Is This A Broadstrike?

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and if so, what would an approximate value be?

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 Posted 08/17/2010  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks like a damaged coin that was in an encasement of some type.
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i don't think that's a broad strike.

if it were, it would have no premium over face but this one has me puzzled.

i cant tell if that's an error or post-mint damage
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coop, what could this be encased in that doesn't push the other side of the rim in?
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I have seen several Encased Coins before and this looks different than any I have seen.There is an indentation running all the way around the edge of the coin but the broad part of the obverse is very sharply angular like the coin was struck without a collar retaining it. I don't know if that helps or not but I don't think it is encasement. What other things might cause this look? (guys,I am not saying you are all wrong,I am just trying to help you see what may not be obvious in the pictures. It could be encased,all I am saying is it is totally different than the other dozen or so encased ones I have seen.)
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You can see where the rim HAD an upset (rim heightening after being cut turning it into a planchet) in certain areas of the coin. This was there are it would of happened to leave certain areas still showing it. Usually this is all flattened when pushed into an encasement. The die shaped the normal devices and looking again at this coin, it may have been caught in a counting machine and left the damage on the lower 1/2 of the obverse and upper half of the reverse. Back to back damage like it was caught in a machine.
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I agree, looks like it was removed from an encasement.
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Thanks Cop,I think I understand now what I didn't about broadstrikes when I asked the question. The in depth explanations are very useful in helping me visualize the whole process. I agree after relooking at it that it probably was encased because it is thicker than normal ,not thinner.
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It's amazing how often ex-encased coins are confused with either a Broadstrike or a Partial Collar (AKA railroad rim). I see them on ebay and (foolishly) argue with the sellers sometimes - rarely does anyone listen. Sharing knowledge about varieties and errors is essential...

And nice explanation Coop.
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