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Mexican Portrait Dollars

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 Posted 08/21/2010  12:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Spanish Colonial coins minted in Mexico. This series (Portrait dollars 1772-1821 with some Royalist coins minted up to 1823) follows the Pillar dollars minted from 1732-1771

1772 MF, Carlos III very scarce with assayer inverted and backwards


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1791 MoFM Carlos IIII


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1803 MoTH Carlos IIII


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1814/13 MoHJ Ferdinand VII Draped Bust


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Mexican-Portrait-Dollars

1810 MoTH Ferdinand VII Armored Bust


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Greece
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 Posted 08/21/2010  04:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coins jfransch.All of them are in AU or better condition.Thank you for sharing them with us.
I have only some 8 reals from El cazador shipwreck.but they come from the bottom of the sea,so they don't have the beauty of your coins.
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 Posted 08/21/2010  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nicolashsing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looking for the 1772 inverted FM portrait for a long time.Unfortunately I found the price of this coin going higher and higher,always in a unreasonable price.
And this time the Carlous III portrait pillar is more and more scarer than Carlous IV.
The 1803TH is keydate of Carlous IV Mexico 8r,the common one was 1803FT.
I thought you must be a expert in collecting pillar dollars.I'll post some of my coiilection,please go and make some comments on them.
Regards!
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 Posted 08/21/2010  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nico... If you want a 1772 Mo with the inverted MF assayer for you collection, better try and grab it as quick as you can. Only in the last 6 or 7 years have collectors begun to realize just how scarce that coin is compared to the regular inverted FM. Every time one comes up for auction, it goes for much higher than the estimate, a sure sign of collector demand. The coins posted included the key dates for Carlos IIII and Ferdinand VII both varieties. The 1814/3 MoHJ is one of my favorite coins and one of the 3 key dates in the entire Mo Portrait 8 Reales series. The 1791 picture (it's a flat plate scan) doesn't do the coin justice, it is full luster semi prooflike MS condition, a really sweet coin.
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 Posted 08/21/2010  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nicolashsing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jfransch
I though you should send part of your collection to NGC or PCGS. The 1791 could make a PL63,what a valuable treasure!
Although the 1814/13 MoHJ Ferdinand VII Draped Bust has VF35 or so condition,but it can easily go for 5000 bucks if certificated by NGC.
The armored bust 1810TH is the key of this kind bust.
Do you a coin dealer or purly a collector,I wanna more dicuss with you with spanish colonial coin futher!
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Nico
I have very few coins that have been slabbed, and they were bought that way. I see no point in paying someone to tell me what my coin is. I have been collecting Mexican 8's for over 30 years and am comfortable with my own eye. As for the 1814/3, it doesn't need to be slabbed, I have standing offers from various collectors that know I have it should I ever want to let it out of my grasp (fat chance while I am still alive). I am strictly a collector, coins move into my safe deposit box and stay in the good company of their peers, no dealing for this boy. However that said, I have been tempted to sell off some of my duplicates to raise money for new purchases but everytime I get them out I can't bring myself to put them up for sale. I am really fortunate that I have a 21 year old son that is also a collector so my collection wil stay intact at least through one more generation.
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 Posted 08/21/2010  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I am really fortunate that I have a 21 year old son that is also a collector so my collection wil stay intact at least through one more generation.

jfransch : Not only you are blessed with supernice coin collection of these amazing Spanish Colonial coins, but you are also blessed with your 21 year old son who happens to have the same steps tackling as his Dad. How I wish any of my children will be like yours
Thanks for sharing
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 Posted 08/22/2010  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice group - nothing of interest to me. They are real
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