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I am not new to Morgans, but I am very new to VAM's. I came across this specimen at my local antique shop and noticed the 2 in the date looked a little funny. I looked closer and noticed that it appeared to be filled in. Now I did a little research and came across the the 1902 O VAM 15A. There appears to be no die break at the E and D. The only thing I can find on the coin that is out of the ordinary is the 2 in the date. I am curious to see what you guys think about this. Any info or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! 
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I am definitely no expert in this sort of stuff prlahr, but the "2" looks pretty normal to me. The entire date and its relationship to the neck point indicates that it is what is called a "normal" date placement. If you are interested in help on exactly which VAM this is, a shot of the mint mark would be nearly essential, and probably shots of the entire obverse and reverse would be a good place to start. I see that you are using a camera through a loupe (I imagine) which must be pretty difficult.
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Thanks for the response zeewool. I probably just need to get a closer picture of the 2 and the additional pictures you suggested. The loop trick was all I could think of. My camera wouldn't focus on a close up picture attempt. Maybe I'll try to get a higher power loop to get some better pics.
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I use a scanner for pictures. I don't know if you have a scanner, and I'm not sure if all scanners have zoom and enlargement capabilities, but mine does. I don't even know how to use a camera, so I don't even own one. I take most of my pictures mentally, kind of hard to put them on a computer screen too.
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Attempt to make it easier to see. 
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I have seen that 2 before, and that alone narrows things down to about six or seven possibilities. I believe that this is called a 'filled 2'. I could be well be wrong though. I am sure that we will get some expert help here shortly.
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That link isn't working right now (for me)....maybe later. Prlahr, that is one excellent close up. If you could get of the mint mark (not quite that close) showing the tops of the D O letters below it, and the bottom of the wreath bow above it, that would be great. From there, one of the experts here will probably ask for one or two more close ups of other areas in order to lock it down. Sometimes a specific VAM cannot be positively identified by online photos though, as many vams are distinguished only by the slightest of subtleties. I have a good feeling about this one though.
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Here's another of the mint mark. 
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Okay, I'll say VAM 45. If this is not correct, I am sure we will hear about it very shortly.
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and another. 
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I would tend to think VAM 18 with the pitting in the D of dollar.
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You know that I am very ill equipped to argue with you about an attribution, but allow me to ask this for my own educational benefit; is VAM 18 also known for a filled 2, or is that not really what I was looking at?
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Zee, you look at date placement, whether it has a two berry reverse, mint mark placement, whether it has a doubled ear lobe and in this case, I remember VAM 18 because of pitting in the D of dollar. Check these aspects out as they should all be there. If so, then VAM 18 it is. If not, still look for all of the above mentioned things. You will be able to identify the VAM off of that data.
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mmmmmmm, Got it Oz....Thanks much. I will remember that.
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One more of the ear. 
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