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KisNap Valued Member United States 462 Posts	Posted 08/28/2010 1:56 pm How does this happen? It looks like the field is flush with where the rim would be and there's no defined rim. If a normally struck coin has a defined rim how does this happen? Thanks. The "WE" on the right is above the rim Report this Post to the Staff

Adam_E Pillar of the Community United States 4846 Posts	Posted 08/28/2010 2:00 pm slightly off center, no added value because none of the lettering or design is missing. but you could keep it as a conversation piece. although if you put in a holder it would be worth more than the coin! Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 08/29/2010 07:10 am Quote: If a normally struck coin has a defined rim how does this happen? Thanks. I'm no pro but I think it happens because of a worn out die (deteriorated die) John1 Edited by John1 08/29/2010 07:12 am Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 08/29/2010 09:36 am Die faces are not parallel, they are closer together at the bottom of the bust and the top of the reverse and further apart at the top of the obv and bottom of rev. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 08/29/2010 09:38 am MAD coin. (Miss Aligned Die) The obverse die is adjustable. The reverse die is fixed. When the alignment in incorrect you have an off center location of the obverse die. Most are not really collect-able. But some are when the devices fall over the rim. Close but no cigar: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lisadawn.jpg Over the rim devices: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._MISSING.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...317_Cent.jpg When the die is not corrected it creates another error to watch for. It is called die attrition. The outside edge of the die gets worn leaving a new look. https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ttrition.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._Diamond.jpg I've never heard it mentioned about this happens, but I assume it is caused by the die rubbing again the collar holding the planchet. Report this Post to the Staff
pyrbob Rest in Peace United States 1943 Posts	Posted 08/29/2010 10:24 am This could also be caused by a plachet that is slightly tapered and is thinner on the side missing the rim. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 08/29/2010 11:05 am More like the edge of the die pushed down the rim on the edge in question. I've seen coins like this and it always looks fake with out the rim/gutter on the whole coin. But that is just how they look when they are a MAD coin. The mint considers these a normal part of production. The collectors view it collect-able when the devices are partially missing. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 09:41 am Problem is a MAD coin would not show that same weakness on the opposite side of the coin in the same place. Also the obv is not far enough misaligned to cause th missing rim. In order to cause the rime to be missing completely it would have to be far enough off that the shoulder that forms the rim would be hitting on the collar. Report this Post to the Staff
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