Tear In Note

I just don't know what to think about that one Ceylon. I have never seen anything like it. Never heard of a "printed fold tear" before either. Not sure if I like it or not. Yes, the classification when submitted will be interesting. I would not be surprised if it is just not chalked up as edge or corner damage though. That would be quite a bummer.

Fred Bart described it as - "printed fold that has torn or damaged" - These are his exact words.

The reason no one hear of this is that these are occurrences are few / infrequent. You can "clearly" see the second layer of paper / linen.

There is a known situation of a "paper splice" where the 2 layers were separated. Based on what I have read - initially it was 2 layers attached together but dangling so to say. The "dangling portions" were then "separated" and then became 2 separate sheets. This particular note according to an expert has been graded as some sort of an error and is in private hands.

The 2nd and 3rd pic of my note (OP) is just the note itself. On the pic of the obverse you can see the 2nd layer. IF this was damage / PMD (lack of a better term) then other notes in brick would have been damaged as well - none were.

I have seen notes in bricks affect 30 to 40 notes - cuts, stains, dirt etc - where it is clearly "damage" as twincam point out and can "EASILY" be replicated with a knife or some coffee. No twincam - this was the only damage inside the sealed brick.

My thinking is that the corner of my note was SEPAERATED, but "still intact" during the printing process and subsequently "folded" / "got crinkled up" when it was being "packaged". Here is why - The note made it through the "3 stages of the printing process" (back, front, over print) "intact". You have to look at the 2nd pic (obverse on the OP).

I did send it off to a few and Fred was the only one kind enough to reply / at least take a whack at it.

Here is my spec - At the end of the day none of them know me personally (this is key). Ergo, as you and others who see it will be "SKEPTICAL" of anything they have not seen before and damage / PMD is the easy way out. Peace.

i have been running printing presses for over 20 years

any type of possible damage that happens during the printing process.. I have seen it - damaged paper that gets printed also

that damage was done after printing, separation of the sheet before printing would have not ended up looking like this

a roll splice has to do with the entire width of the roll being "taped together" as it were to form a continuance , it has nothing to do with "layers" -- the paper made for the BEP is rolled, then sheeted to a certain size to run through their continuous feed sheet fed presses

splices would then be rejected by the double sheet eliminator in one of 2 ways.. there's a "manual" sheet stop, OR by an ejector gate that allows the press to continue to run without stopping- BUT...
it IS possible for one to slip by, depending on how it's set, .. they will sneak by on occasion

there is a possibility of this happening in the COPE PAK after printing , as it was entering the stacker to be bust-cut to final size .. still it's .. lets call it PPD post-print damage, or print packaging damage

I'm not trying to argue with you, or blow this note off as damage "just because"
I'm trying to give my professional opinion as a commercial sheet fed printing press operator

Zee, please read again. No where does Fred say "UN printed" or "prior to printing".

Twincam - how easy is it to do "sheet separation" on FRN's? Thanks

Also the 2 layers I get from reading the currency error books and other sources relating to the manufacture of the stock used by the BEP.

i guess "how easy" would be a relative term

do you mean with a razor blade, or for it to get jammed against something during the printing process?

sheets of notes get handled many times, go through many processes and every inch that sheet moves through a printing press is an inch it can get caught on something and jam

as full sheets, a $1 note will be printed 2 times before being cut in half for the 3rd process of the overprint- 3 steps, 3 machines, 3 feeders, 3 deliveries

as far as the "fold" - if it was folded before printing, there would be printing from the opposite side that you would see.. all I see is ink from the front of the note

if it was torn before printing, the ink would have printed under the separation, and the little "flag" on the corner would be blank

can you send me a high res shot of that corner?

a couple of questions...
1. in this picture, is that ink on another tear(flap), or is it on the "fuzzy" inner part of the note?



2. the ink I see here, is it just streaks in the border, or is there a wrinkle going at an angle along with the streaked ink?