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 Posted 09/04/2010  12:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dom to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I read yesterday on one of the posts about how the use of uv blacklight can help id cleaned or altered coins.....I never new this. Can someone explain what to look for with a uv light.....thanks everyone
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 Posted 09/05/2010  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excessive exposure may give you a tan. Not sure how it effects coins though. I don't think they get sunburned.
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 Posted 09/05/2010  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this is something I have never tried, but it would be simple to conduct a small test.

It would be interesting to see if any of the products that are out there to clean or conserve coins is detectable under UV.
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 Posted 09/09/2010  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HMMMM, interesting. And I think I can save you some money. Instead of purchasing a black light, which is as you said UV, try placing some coins out in the Sun. There are some stories about our Sun light containing UV lighting so you could save on buying such a lamp.
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 Posted 09/10/2010  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kabiye_Lady to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know the chemistry, but coins that have been cleaned will always have a residue on them. The stuff in this residue glows under UV light.

But I don't think it works with the "black" lights you buy at Walmart because they don't emit at the correct frequency. I think you can get small ones on ebay for about $20.
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 Posted 09/10/2010  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just an aside,many minerals"fluorese" in uv light(they glow different colors) and scorpion hunters use blacklight because it makes the scorpions glow in the dark. As for cleaned coins, many of the residues will glow also but you need to know if it is under short wave or long wave UV. Some of the handheld units will have 2 bulbs,one long and one short wave, but they can be a bit pricey.
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 Posted 09/10/2010  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most, naturally not all, individuals that clean coins with many different solutions, eventually rinse those coins in Acetone and/or distilled water for getting rid of such residues. If you read the lables on even most jewlery cleaners it stipulates that after such attempts to clean an object, you rinse with water. If not done, such solutions may tend to discolor the coins within a short period of time. Also, many of the solutions used to clean coins do not leave a tell tail residue that is detectable. Try it with Lemon or Lime Juices for instance. And although many dealer attempt ot enhance the appearance of some coins with a small abount of Olive Oils, those too do not emit any reactions with UV lighting.
And contrary to this some STUFF on coins as well as currency that are accumulated from people just touching may show up as a glow on a UV lighting system but have nothing to do with cleaning.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just for the fun of it I took several coins that I have cleaned and placed under a UV lamp. Nothing. Then to continue wasting time, I tried a small Black Light Bulb and again, nothing. Even tried a Infra Red lamp and still nothing. I'd try the Sun outside but it's raining out now. And then placing coins on a table in my neighborhood is not a wise thing to do anyway.
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 Posted 09/11/2010  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for doing that Carl. I didn't think it would make a difference. The best thing to do is look at a lot of coins and clean a few yourself to see what they look like. The retoned coins are the hardest to tell, but I can still spot it with good light. Experience and not gimmics work best.
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 Posted 09/13/2010  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To continue this experiment I took coins now sitting on a window sill in my kitchen and placed on a table with only a black light bulb for lighting. These coins had all been cleaned or polished and from me, many attempts to rejuvenate them. A few little dots on some glowed a small amount but I'd guess from contaminations from the window area.
Next a handfull of coins from my pocket. Barely visible under that black light bulb. I'd keep on trying but really starting to look like one more silly thing.
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