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Mussolini Gold (Fantasy) Coin... Authentic?

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Okay, I've been able to find out that these were made as fantasy pieces in the 1970's with authentic reverse sides(2 types). They were made in copper, silver, and plated versions I've gathered as well. This one is supposedly 21mm at 6 grams but at 14kt(.585)... as opposed to the .900 fine I've seen listed on authentic pieces.
My other concern is that the legend goes from neck to nape; as opposed to facing neck to helment as I've seen on others. I do not have a picture of the reverse. I'll add a link to the best info I've seen... shortly. Is this a valid piece... does it appear authentic?

Mussolini-Gold-Fantasy-Coin...-Authentic?

>>> edit>>> To Whom I May Concern Okay. I wanna link to these for pictures/info. If it ain't allowed just remove it or what you need to do... no hard feelings VVV

http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/italy100lire.html

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^^^ Sorry... I just wanted link for Italy KM70 2nd reverse pix (Cuz I don't have a picture and I'm too lazy to steal,ahh, find one, but I understand that would be promoting some other site... from probably an automagic link removal, ah ,technology... I do tend to amble, uhm, ramble) with motto, (translated) "It is better to live one day as a lion than one hundred years as a lamb." The coin ends up with 3 dates on it... Above the pillar, on the reverse design and on the obverse.

Copy and Paste from the "Coin Doc's Answers" site because lotsa stuff VVV

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The Mussolini fantasy coins are all dated 1943 and were minted in brass, silver and several gold alloys. The original design that refers to "lions" and "sheep" actually belonged to another fantasy, a 1928 100 Lire with head of King Vittorio Emmanuel III.

The Mussolini fantasy gold pieces with the lion/sheep legend consist of: -20 Lira (Gold 31 grams) - current value about $300. -20 Lira (.500 gold 20 mm diameter) - value about $125. -20 Lira (.500 gold 17 mm diameter) - value about $85. -50 Lira -(about 23 mm) - value about $175. -100 Lira -(34 mm) -value about $300.

Though they are somewhat historically interesting, they are contrived pieces. There isn't too many fond memories of Benito Mussolini to make these a wildly popular collectible.
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>>> edit>>> Okay... about 3 edits now... I stop
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09/06/2010 8:50 pm
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Well, it's not part of the same fantasy series as the one pictured there on the Chard Coins website; it gives his full name "Benito Mussolini" and his birth and death dates. Your piece isn't listed in the Krause "Unusual World Coins" book, though the others dated 1943 are.

I'd assume it was issued by a neo-fascist group, along the same lines as this Hitler "coin".
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I'm assuming this reverse looks like these VVV
http://coins.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_...0.m270.l1313

But, I've also seen this in gold reverses VVV
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEDAGLIA-DUCE-D...em3a5be8dd36
^^^ This would be the coin that would have the 3 dates on it but be produced in yet a year other than the 3 dates (1970s).
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