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Kennedy Coin Error Identify

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 Posted 09/26/2010  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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He said he paid $400


That's a lot of coin to throw down without being absolutely sure. I am leaning towards a genuine mint error but I am no where near knowledgeable or experienced in errors to make a absolute determination.


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Well, he kept popping it for me, and I said you probably should not keep doing that.


Probably good advice. If I spent that kind of money on a coin it would be, in the very least, in a 2x2 where it would stay.
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09/26/2010 10:34 pm
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 Posted 09/27/2010  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sure looks to me like a struck copper nickel clad layer that separated before striking. (and which has probably been damaged/distorted by being used as a "popper".)

The amount of nickel mentioned earlier was correct, 8.33% of the total weight or .945 grams. But he didn't go far enough. Since that weight is roughly equal in the two clad layer that means that a single clad layer has only .473 grams of nickel in it. But that nickel is only 1/4 of the total weight of the layer so a single copper nickel clad layer from a half dollar should weigh...... 1.89 grams. Pretty much exactly what this one weighs.

As for the detail, being so thin it pretty much only shows in the central areas, and only shows anywhere decently for those portions that are opposite field areas on the other side. Exactly what you would expect. I think it is a struck clad layer.
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09/27/2010 10:02 am
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 Posted 09/27/2010  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
why is there a picture of an Indian Head cent in here? was this supposed to be a reverse picture and its the wrong picture?
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 Posted 09/27/2010  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
where is there a picture of an Indian Head cent?
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 Posted 09/27/2010  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse image was there yesterday, now it is an 1889 IHC.
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 Posted 09/28/2010  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still relatively new, but I've never seen anything like that. I'm curious to see if you guys come to a consensus on this.
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 Posted 09/29/2010  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Michael_T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To add in my $.02 worth (so to speak) to this thread I have a Kennedy half that has a part of the lamination separated. Here is a picture showing the separation. It happened in 2 places on this 1968 half dollar.


Kennedy-Coin-Error-Identify

Bad bunch of coinage materials?
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 Posted 09/30/2010  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glentom1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure why the 1889 IH took over the pic of the reverse of the Kennedy half. I did post that as another topic. It has a completely different file name.

Thanks for all the responses.
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Here is the pic of the reverse that was usurped.

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09/30/2010 02:45 am
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 Posted 09/30/2010  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a struck clad layer. The clad layer separated from a blank and entered the striking chamber by itself. The weight and appearance is right. I think it separated from a blank rather than a planchet because the edge shows reeding. That would indicate the clad layer was as wide or slightly wider than the collar. If it had separated from a planchet there would be little or no reeding since the diameter would be smaller than the collar and there wouldn't be enough pressure applied to make it expand.
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09/30/2010 09:16 am
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Wow...I appreciate these explanations--and the thought process behind them. Very enlightening.
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 Posted 09/30/2010  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great explanation Mr. Diamond! Any idea on the value of a piece like this?
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Value would probably be in the the $200 to $250 range.
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 Posted 10/03/2010  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glentom1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again for all your replies. My nephew being a young guy will probably hang on to it for 20 or 30 years before he gets interested in selling, so is not a bad investment for him.
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 Posted 10/04/2010  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was almost convinced it was not an error, I appreciate the explaination, Thanks Mike....
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