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Anybody familiar with this type of error? It is very thin and weighs 1.9g. Thanks.   
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Pillar of the Community
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it looks like it was acid dipped then heated to a REALLY high temperature to make it melt a little
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1.9g, are you sure it is that light? That is less than a Lincoln Penny. It is PMD for sure, perhaps a coin shrinking gone wrong. Adam is right though, it was heated very hot either electrically, or with a torch. |
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Pillar of the Community
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acid and heat can do a lot to a coin
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I'll go with a struck clad layer that peeled from the original planchet. Very nice!
NOTE TO MODS: Might want to move this topic to Modern Varieties.
Edited by copper nickel daddy
09/26/2010 12:15 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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If it was a struck clad layer, then the obverse or reverse would be, much less detailed. I don't think the strike carries through the planchet like that.
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I would like to believe the acid dip theory but what appears to be an absent copper layer leads me to think that maybe it is a clad layer from a defective planchet that made it in and out of the die press and through QC into the wild.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Look at those raised marks where the reeding intersects the edge.   |
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Actually I don't think that it peeled off after being struck. I think that a clad layer, that had already seperated from a planchet, moved into the press and was struck. I could be wrong here, but it looks similar to others I have seen certified with this type of error.
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Here is some weight info..
Normal Ken = 11.34g 8.33% Ni
So a Ken should have just under a gram of Ni total, this weighs 1.9g.
If it peeled off a normal planchet, it should weigh LESS than 1g signifigantly.
Unless it was a defective planchet, but if that was true and it went into the press the high areas on the reverse should be seen. (The eagles breast would be struck fuller)
I think this was a heated coin that has had the copper removed (Cu melts at 1971F, and Ni at 2647F), enough of a seperation that you could do what you do with a Zincoln and a gas stove as people do on youtube. This would cause the defomation on the high areas, which should still be struck cleanly.
This is all theroy, and my opnion, so take it for what its worth :)
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On the weight, it is 28.7 grains precisely. My nephew bought it at a coin shop, and it was labeled "Half struck on obverse shell." He said he paid $400, so I felt kinda bad for him. Assuming it is not a heated coin with the copper removed, and is a mint error, any guesses as to value?
Thanks for all the replies.
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Pillar of the Community
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Maybe Mike Diamond will chime in :)
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worth no where near $400 IMO, and this is probably not a mint error
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Bedrock of the Community
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Most likely struck on a separated clad layer but it could also be struck on some nonstandard planchet. The appearance is exactly what you would expect for a very weak strike. Quote:
So a Ken should have just under a gram of Ni total, this weighs 1.9g That is correct for the coin as a whole but the outer layers are composed of 75% copper 25% nickel, not pure nickel. |
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Thanks again for all the info! I have frequented the coin store he got it from for over 45 years, and they don't buy or sell junk that is not labeled as such. Although I suppose anyone could be fooled at least once.
My nephew said to say "Tell the people on the forum about how its called a "popper" (how it clicks when you bend it) thats what Jim at the coin shop was certain of why its an error."
Well, he kept popping it for me, and I said you probably should not keep doing that.:) Ahh, if I could have afforded a $400 popper when I was 18, can't even afford one now! Wonder if we should send it to NGC?
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Posted 09/26/2010 11:44 am
