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Here are a few Walking Lib's that I would like your opinions on thanks! 1934:   1936:   1940-S:   P.S. the 40-S is definately uncirculated Thanks for your thoughts! |
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Haven't had much dealings with these. Getting late and eyes are getting tired. 5am comes awful early, but, I will give it a go.
1934 - MS-64
1936 - MS-65
1940-S - MS-65
I think the '36 is the best looking one out of the whole bunch though.
These things are absolutely gorgeous. I had to go back and look several times. I think I might have to get me a set of these going instead of Kennedys when I get my Franklin set done. Especially if I can find them in these grades.
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08/13/2006 11:25 pm
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I moved this to the Coin Grading Practice section. 1934 - AU58 or MS63 - A few too many hits in the leg area to make 64 if it is uncirculated, in my opinion. Nice strike on the head, though. The darker areas on the eagle's feathers look like possible rub. If so, it's a beautiful slider coin. 1936 - MS64 - The hit in the leg looks a little deep to go 65. 1940S - MS63 - Too many small hits in the leg area and a poor strike on Liberty's left arm/hand. I don't think it would make it to 64. What's the deal with the strike on the eagle's leg? Does it look to you like a filled die or a strike-through? This would also explain the weaker strike on the obverse. All are very nice coins.  |
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Originally posted by Susanlynn9
I moved this to the Coin Grading Practice section.
All are very nice coins.
Thank you for the compliment and thanks for moving the thread, I missed that there was a specific forum for this type of thread. |
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I went way low on the 40-S because of the marks that look pretty deep on her skirt, the light lines in the skirt and the lack of detail (weak strike) on the eagle. I'm sure that more experienced graders would go to MS63 or 64 on her but, I downgrade (for my own collection) based on eye-appeal without marks. That probably doesn't make much sense but, I dropped her a good 3-4 because of these reasons. Too much? - more than likely yes.
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I've been collecting Walkers hard-core for the past 4 months. But circulated coins and nothing near as nice as yours. I've got to admit that I don't know enough to say when missing detail is due to wear or poor strike. That's why I was pretty floored when you said that the 40-S was an UNC, because it's missing all kinds of detail in the high points. I assume that with the coin in hand you can tell that the luster is absolutely unimpeded. With that strike, I couldn't call it better than a 60. Likewise, the 34 seems to evidence some wear/rub on the breast feathers. Ch AU. The 36 looks like an absolute Gem to me. But then, I've seen a lot of 65s that turned out to be 58s. If I am wrong, please don't be angry with me for dissing your coins--I think they're fantastic. But the fact that I can't tell the difference between an AU and a BU is one reason that I stick to VF/EF examples (price would be a second reason ). |
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Originally posted by Susanlynn9
1940S - MS63 - What's the deal with the strike on the eagle's leg? Does it look to you like a filled die or a strike-through?
All are very nice coins.
Nope, it is just typically weak like almost all early 40's San Francisco Walkers. Actually, I chose it for this post because it has about as bad a strike as I've ever seen on one of these, and that's for a coin that is known for it's poor striking pressure. That's just the evidence of the poor strike that is visible on the back. |
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Originally posted by texasmick
If I am wrong, please don't be angry with me for dissing your coins--I think they're fantastic. But the fact that I can't tell the difference between an AU and a BU is one reason that I stick to VF/EF examples (price would be a second reason ).
My opinion differs from your some, but I'm definately not upset with you for anything you said. ;) I asked for opinion because I wanted them, and you answered, that's exactly what I was looking for. quote:
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I was pretty floored when you said that the 40-S was an UNC, because it's missing all kinds of detail in the high points.
Like I mentioned earlier, the early-40's SF Walkers are known for their abysmal strikes, but I can guarantee you that in hand the luster is completely unbroken across the missing left hand/belly/leg detail. Because I wanted more accurate grade guesses I added that info in my OP since it isn't necessarily obvious from the pics. Thanks for your thoughts! |
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I just noticed the "S" in States. Which way is correct? Does the wing suppose to allow an impression of the "S" or is the tip of the wing suppose to be smooth? I can't remember which.
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It's early yet, but on the 40-S there seems to be two camps: the academic grades and the market grades. The academic grades are based on level of preservation only, and that's where you get grades of 63-65. The market grades are based on what the coin should fetch in the marketplace (i.e., coins of what comparable grade have the same value as this coin) and there you'll get grades of 60--even as low as 50. The above is based not on years of experience, but on reading (that's what you get when you follow the advice, "buy the book before the coin"). My reading also says that the "old ANACS" endorsed strictly academic grades. But the marketplace rebelled because it would be common for a nice 55 to be much more desirable (and valuable) than certain 64 specimens (such as the one above). This threatened the growing trend towards sight-unseen trading. As a result, the big TPG companies now follow market grading (which is perhaps one reason for their lack of consistency). Edit: I just noticed the discussion on another thread: http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...D=7229#57647Longnine has a nice discussion of academic/technical vs. market grading. Edited by texasmick
08/14/2006 10:06 am
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58, 64, PR-58 (I'm sorry but liberty's leg looks smoother than the 36 but it appears to have proof qualities, perhaps this PROOF saw some circulation)
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08/14/2006 10:26 am
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Beautiful coins. I don't know enough about grading to venture even a guess right now. I, too, got into collecting the Walking Liberty halves awhile back. I've been able to get 64 of them, but that 1921-D seems to be a little stiff for my meager pocket - at least right now. I'll find it one of these days when it's meant for me to get it. Again - nice coins. Ralph |
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