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Is It Real Or Is It Memorex? (Is It Confederate?) What?

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I thought I'd put this over here as well as I know many on this topic might have expertise in this area. I am the first convergence of about 6 or 7 collections from various family members who have passed away that is actually living in and utilizing the computer age. I have many many items I am researching. I find a lot of them myself but frequently need some help. I don't know if this particular item is real so I have several questions. Let's start by talking about this one. It is from Arkansas and has printing on both sides (letters, numbers, dates, and signatures) I can find no where on it that is says "novelty" or anything else of that nature. I would consider the material it is made out of to be just shy of brittle, but it has been in a sealed container and been held flat and in place for about 20 years I know of. Tell me what you can about it! There's about 9 other ones that were with it. They come from the following places: South Carolina, Virginia, Mississippi, North Carolina, Georgia, 2 from the Republic of Texas, and 2 The Government of Texas. Do all of the old money or vouchers of this nature, that's real, have printing on both sides, cause some of these don't, or is some of it one sided? I'll post any of it that might be of interest but strictly for identification purposes as I am attempting to identify and log a large amount of this stuff. I'm learning a lot as I go but especially from the members of the forum to whom I say "booyah" especially to Sap. Thanks again! Sorry I haven't reached 50 posts yet. When I get there perhaps it will get easier to see and read items. "Always learning cause I'm always asking!" Oh, by the way if these things are novelty where's that put the collect-ability?


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For Confederate, Texan and similar time period notes, I find a handy first stop is Crutch Williams' list of bogus notes. Look up the type, then the serial number. If the number on your note is listed, it's definitely bogus (the genuine example of the note with that number is usually in a museum collection); if it's not listed, then there's a reasonable chance it's genuine.

In this example, I see an Arkansas Treasury Warrant $1 listed, dated April 28 1862, numbered 128346; I think the date is a match but I can't quite read the number on yours to rule it one way or the other.

Your other option is to Google the note type and the serial number, and see if anyone else on the Internet owns one. If you find a match, it's probably bogus too - especially if yours have been sealed away in the family for years.

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...I would consider the material it is made out of to be just shy of brittle...

Replica notes are often artificially aged, to make them "look and feel old"; usually it's done by soaking them in acetic acid or other chemicals that attack the paper. My dad once brought me home a set of replica notes; they still smelled of vinegar. The chemical often creates a wrinkled, wavy effect in the paper, which I think I can see along the bottom of your note; genuine notes shouldn't wrinkle like that unless they, too, have gotten wet.

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Do all of the old money or vouchers of this nature, that's real, have printing on both sides, cause some of these don't, or is some of it one sided?

I'd have to say "it depends". Most bank and government notes should be two-sided, private scrip is often one-sided, though there are plenty of exceptions to these rules.

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Oh, by the way if these things are novelty where's that put the collect-ability?

You can go to historic sites and buy envelopes full of replica notes for a few dollars (My dad bought the aforementioned set in Richmond, Virginia). An individual replica wouldn't be worth more than a dollar, I would guess. Not too many people actually want them as a collectable item.

Hope this helps some.
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Hey Sap good to hear from you! Thanks for the help! Hope thinks are well in Australia. Really appreciate you Bud and thanks for helping Walt with his token he's a new member you know and welcome to ya Walt. Hope to being seeing more of you on the forum great bunch of folks here I think you will them a big help! I follow through on all the leads Sap. Got a couple of international notes I'm going to drop in here this afternoon. One from Switzerland and one from the Bank of England.
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