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2004 Small Head 20c. Coin.

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 Posted 08/15/2006  07:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Aidan Work to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Has anyone else apart from me noticed that the portrait of our Queen is a lot smaller on the 2004 Aussie 20c. coins than on other dates?

Aidan.
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 Posted 08/15/2006  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madbudgie0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aidan - You actually have two different obverses in 2004 a large head (flat) & small head (pointy) "A" in both the mint & proof sets, and in both the 20c & 50c now this gets a little confusing but if I have this right, you have...

PROOF SETS


Large 20c & 50c in one set.
Small 20c & 50c in one set.
Large 20c & small 50c in one set.
Large 50c & small 20c in one set.

MINT SETS


I have only come across two varieties in the mint sets...

Large 20c & 50c in one set.
Large 20c & small 50c in one set.

Although I believe you can get the other two types out of "Baby" sets...

Hope I have this right & it helps you
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 Posted 08/15/2006  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aidan Work to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that.I noticed that the head was a smaller one when I got one in change over here in New Zealand a while ago.We won't be finding any Aussie coins in change over here much longer,as we are in the process of getting rid of our old coins.

Aidan.
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 Posted 08/15/2006  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aidan,

I am afraid Madbudgie got his varieties about face.

The large head 20 cents of which 400,000 went into circulation has the pointed A text and the small head 20 cents has the flat top A text. Other letters are also different but the A is easiest to pick. There were tens of millions of the small head variety released into circulation. As for the 50 cents, only the small head went into circulation. The large head can only be obtained from 2004 mint and proof sets and baby mint and baby proof sets. The Proof sets have all combinations of the 4 coins, the mint and baby mint sets only have 3 combinations so far sighted.

The 20 cents in the Proof Sets also has two reverse varieties recognised by either small or large designer's initials, SD. Only the large SD appears on the uncirculated 20 cents.

Hope this helps.
Wayne
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 Posted 08/15/2006  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aidan Work to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wayne,thanks for that.I didn't even know that the Aussie 2004 50c. also had a small head type as well.I shall be looking out for that one.

Aidan.
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 Posted 08/17/2006  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add b_j_w_79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey everyone. I have a few of the large head queens from circulation, while looking for other coins. How much do you thing they are worth? Do you think they will go up in value much? ebay auctions seem to be all over the place!

Ben
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 Posted 08/18/2006  03:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by b_j_w_79

Hey everyone. I have a few of the large head queens from circulation, while looking for other coins. How much do you thing they are worth? Do you think they will go up in value much? ebay auctions seem to be all over the place!

Ben

Hi Ben and welcome to the Forum.

It is difficult to say how the price will go on ones from circulation. They certainly are hard to find. In two years I think I have only ever found 4 from all the 20c I look through each week.

The problem is that people and dealers can take them out of the Mint and Baby Mint sets and sell them as choice uncirculated. A bit too easy really. There should be a price put on effort and sheer luck because that is what one needs to find one in circulation - there was only 400,000 issued and those coins are in the Australian melting pot with xxxx millions of other 20 cent coins dated 1966 to 2006 and from Cairns to Hobart, Norfolk Island to Perth, Christmas Island to Darwin.

You did well to find any. To me they are different to the ones in the sets, because the blanks and coins for the sets are treated and pressed differently to the circulation coins.

The large head 50 cents on the other hand for Aidan's info, can only be obtained from the mint sets.

Wayne
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 Posted 08/18/2006  04:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For anyone into collecting varieties here is a little info for you on the 20 cent Platypus 1999-2006.

1) 1999 20 cents - Reverse A - Platypus with small SD, Obverse A - (new) Ian Rank-Broadley bust of the Queen (large), IRB spaced, text style 1 and close to rim.
2) 2000 20 cents - Reverse A - Platypus with small SD, Obverse B - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (smaller than 1999), IRB spaced, text style 2 and further from rim.
3) 2001 20 cents - Reverse A - Platypus with small SD, Obverse C - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (larger than 2000), IRB spaced, text style 3 and closer to rim like 1999.
4) 2001 20 cents - Reverse B - Platypus with large SD, Obverse C - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (larger than 2000), IRB spaced, text style 3 and closer to rim like 1999.
5) 2001 20 cents - Reverse A - Platypus with small SD, Obverse D - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (smaller as in 2000), IRB joined, text style 3 and closer to rim than 2000 but not as close as 1999.
6) 2001 20 cents - Reverse B - Platypus with large SD, Obverse D - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (smaller as in 2000), IRB joined, text style 3 and closer to rim than 2000 but not as close as 1999.
7) 2002 20 cents - Reverse B - Platypus with large SD, Obverse D - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (similar to 2001 (6)), IRB joined, text style 3, similar to 2001 (6).
8) 2004 20 cents - Reverse B - Platypus with large SD, Obverse D - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (similar to 2001 (6)), IRB joined, text style 3, similar to 2001 (6).
9) 2004 20 cents - Reverse B - Platypus with large SD, Obverse E - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (smaller than all previous years), IRB joined, text style 4 (flat top to A).
10) 2005 20 cents - Reverse B - Platypus with large SD, Obverse F - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (large), IRB joined, text style 5, large thinner letters closer to rim, return to pointed A, zeros in date different style.
11) 2006 20 cents - Reverse B - Platypus with large SD, Obverse G - Ian Rank-Broadley bust (similar to 2005), IRB joined, text style 6, close to rim as in 2005, different A and zeros in date to 2005 and previous years.

Some other varieties exist - 2002 in proof has Reverse A with small SD, 2004 in proof has both Reverse A and Reverse B, 2006 in proof has both Reverse A and Reverse B. A silver proof dated 1998 from Masterpieces in Silver Set has same Reverse A and Obverse B as 1999, the base metal unc and proof coin for 1998 has the Raphael Maklouf bust of Queen.

Wayne
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 Posted 08/18/2006  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add b_j_w_79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the welcome and the information Wayne! I will probably sell some and keep some. In other words I can't decide what to do with them so I will split the difference. I can see them becoming an ongoing nightmare!

Regards, Ben
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