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mcshilling Pillar of the Community Canada 9165 Posts	Posted 10/06/2010 6:44 pm Thanks remmy. Report this Post to the Staff
garylcsr Pillar of the Community United States 1952 Posts	Posted 10/11/2010 11:06 pm I didn't go through every post on this thread so forgive me if already answered. but I hold on to all the envelopes and box's from the sets I break out. not to defraud anyone but to sale later to folks that need newer clean box's or envelopes to replace their torn or dogeared envelopes and box's. that is legal. but I would never replace coins in them after breaking the case open. that would be a bad thing and possibly Fraud. I have hundreds of envelopes and box's if you need them just let me know what year. you pay to ship and you can have them Gary Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 10/16/2010 1:25 pm And in the case of the mints COA's they can't be specifically tied to any specific coin or set so frankly as long as the coin or set matches what is described on the COA I see no problem with it. In the early years of COA's from the mint they didn't even describe on the certificate what it was supposedly authenticating so any certificate could be used with any coin or set. I know at the shop I was at we ept a stockpile of the holders, boxes and COA's on hand so we could make up "sets with all the papers" for customer that wanted them that way. Report this Post to the Staff
Coin Chaser Valued Member United States 307 Posts	Posted 10/16/2010 2:04 pm The position that the mint takes is that the case and coa is issued only for the coin sent from the mint. The practice of reusing them was thought up by people wanting to increase the value of their coin. It may be OK only because some say it is OK. It happens to be misrepresentation. Think about it. If we want honesty to be a part of our breed we need to recognize it. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5629 Posts	Posted 10/16/2010 4:26 pm This topic can go either way, all according to whom you ask, I feel that SD said it all, I also feel this previously stated statement assists in conveying my thoughts, " It happens to be misrepresentation. Think about it. If we want honesty to be a part of our breed we need to recognize it." The term deception comes to mind...... I collect all the ASE;s and Commemoratives, Prestige Sets, Bald Eagles,ETC. I feel the need to keep the coins in their original packaging and also keep another set of the same in Dansco Albums, that said, this practice borders on fraud, IMO, I have always wondered just how many sets I DID NOT buy directly from the you S Mint were "switched", and probably never will. I can also see the use of these OGP boxes being used for the same, type, year, genuine coins if no one gets burnt, by that I mean , people do not receive what they were promised, and We all know that when this practice takes place, IMO, The person doing the "switching" is NOT placing a MS70 coin in the box or a Proof 70 in the box. I have come to expect nothing but the best the you S Mint has to offer and highly doubt the coins placed in these 'boxes" are of the same quality!! Not a good practice to become involved in, I would ask, while we are on the subject, How many members buy these boxes, or place non-original coins in these packages, and sell them as "ALL ORIGINAL PACKAGING"!!! Report this Post to the Staff
Honklebriff New Member United States 1 Posts	Posted 07/29/2013 12:34 am It might be legal to use the boxes (I don't know) but using "there" when you SHOULD'VE used "their" is DEFINITELY illegal! Report this Post to the Staff
pawpaw34 Valued Member United States 331 Posts	Posted 07/30/2013 11:40 am Bottom line if you take something out of a seal and replace it with something thats the same. Without discloseing what you did. You are defrauding your potential buyer. If you use the original paper work. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 07/30/2013 12:51 pm And if the original item isn't sealed? Since 1999 proof sets have not been sealed. The capsules used on proof bullion and commemoratives are not sealed. unless you get your mint product directly from the mint itself, you have no way to know whether or not some of the coins have been switched or if the item has been assembled. The COA's themselves are not issued tied to a SPECIFIC coin or set, just the general type (The sets/coins and COA's are not serial numbered.) As I said earlier in the thread, dealers do this all the time. Most of them have a stash of recent holders/boxes/COA etc for replacing missing parts. Report this Post to the Staff
pawpaw34 Valued Member United States 331 Posts	Posted 07/30/2013 1:18 pm And there again if that is done should be stated. If not you are selling something that is not on the up and up. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5629 Posts	Posted 07/30/2013 10:58 pm When it's all said and done, Conder101 said it all, I too collect sets, mint and proof from 1950 to date and seek the original packaging EVERY time I locate a new addition!!! To some it Really matters...... Report this Post to the Staff
pawpaw34 Valued Member United States 331 Posts	Posted 07/31/2013 08:33 am Morgan I can understand that totally. For your own collection. But when selling it should be stated as such. Report this Post to the Staff
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