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1899 IHC Struck Through Something?

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I pulled this coin out for discussion. It's a golden brassy color in hand, and under 10X magnification.
Any thoughts?

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It looks like it may be in improperly mixed alloy to me.
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Is it only on the surface or is there an actual indent?
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Only on surface. Like I said, looks like gold. I'll try to get a better closeup.
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Rather than struck through, I would say struck by.
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To me, it looks integral to the planchet and not post-mint
Gold? That sure would be interesting. It could be an area of the planchet with more tin?
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The thing is, the area in question is definitely gold or brass color, not typically what I have seen in improper alloy mixture's.
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Yeah...I've seen a few IHCs, and can't say I've seen one like that.
If brass, you'd think it would tone with the rest of the coin?
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Maybe we'll wait for biokemist to chime in :-)
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Interesting - and I'm not sure what to make of it. Here is one of my Indians with a 'gold-like' metal struck through it, certified by NGC as such. I had a couple of gold coin experts look at it, and they both said with authority that it's not gold. But I still don't know what it is but would like to show you one example of a known metal strike through ... http://indiancenterrors.shutterfly....pictures/187
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...270647049608

Here's a Wheat cent being sold by a reputable error dealer as 'improper alloy',' probably brass streaks'.
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This one still has me intrigued. Brass is a distinctive color vs. gold alloys.
Have you ever read about this 1906 IHC--struck on a gold planchet?
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I have seen that coin. Awesome! Well, they did mint gold coins as we all know in 1899. I shined a flashlight on the area in question and it gleams like gold. I have to get more pictures posted.
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The reflectance of gold alloys is definitely unique, probably owing to its density.
Wait...you metal detect for gold, right? Well...no need for me to say anything on this subject.
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I never thought about weighing it. It should be slightly heavier, like .1 or .2.
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I appologize for not being able to find the link right now, but either PCGS or NGC has a relatively new service that they can tell you the composition of coins, and even metal from strike thoughs. It costs an additional $75 to the regular costs of having it graded and slabbed, so it'll run you about $100. If it were cheaper, I could justify sending a few of mine in for that service - but it would, however, conclusively answer the question at hand.
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