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Denver ANA Newps - Boy I Spent Way Too Much!

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 Posted 08/16/2006  8:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I basically got 5 new coins today, including two trades I did to get a couple of them.

My first purchase was an 1770 Pillar Dollar (8 Reales) in XF/AU. I really liked the original look of the coin which is extremely hard to find. There are usually cleaned and look that way...not this one. It might have had an old cleaning a long time ago, but it definitely does not have that look. This coin was not cheap. I spent way over the $250 that these typically go for.

For some silly reason I wanted got the impulse to buy a 1912-S Liberty Head Nickel. The best circulated one I could find on the floor is the one I bought and shown here. I spent too much on it, but Oh Well...it's mine now. I spent about $350. Other dealers had ones (F15 just like this but I still liked mine better) for $300 or less. Ouch. Again, the look of the coin was right for me and it doesn't have that same scrubbed look that sooooo many 1912-S and better date lower grade Liberty nickels have.

The next coin I think I got a killer deal on. The coin is superb. It's a 1828 Bust Half Dollar in Choice AU. The coin still has plenty of luster and hasn't been screwed with and has no visible problem which is very hard to find like that! I think it's a common Overton-102 (can anyone verify for me?).

I traded up a coin (actually it was part of the 1912-S Nickel trade) for an 1813 Classic Head Large Cent in F15 (EAC) from Doug Bird. This was an expensive coin. Waaaayyyy over any wholesale price you'll see. But, I wanted to do away with my 1814 that bad surfaces that were mildly treated for porosity for a coin with no porosity and choice surfaces. I think I got one.

Finally, a very special coin that is part of a focal portion of my collection of early proofs. I traded a Barber Proof Dime (a stunningly gorgeous one at that!) and a whole lotta cash for an 1867 3CS NGC PF65 (Cameo but not designated). The coin is is an older NGC holder so I'm not surprised the Cameo was not designated. The coin has beautiful mirrors, pure white but with some hazing that could probably be dipped off (which I won't do). This is my first Gem Proof 3CS. I usually stay away from them because their prices are much higher than just 1 point lower (PF64), but I felt this coin looks great in the holder and the it's "all there". No pictures of this coin (I couldn't get my digital camera to focus on this one...darn!).

There was one coin that I ALMOST got. I wrote the check, gave it to the dealer, asked the dealer to let me have a few minutes to get an expert opinion or two, and then returned the coin and got my check back. This would have been a KILLER coin had it been a non-problem coin. It almost "got" me...as I was fooled. The coin was an 1883 3CN in MS63 (raw). This is a very tricky coin to buy either raw OR even in a slab. They are notoriously sold as business strikes but are really impaired proofs or just non-brilliant proofs. What KILLS me is the coin was a no-brainer business strike with a very sharp beautiful strike, LOTS of die-clashing (which is not typical on proofs at all), and looked MS64+. The problem? The person I took it to pointed out that lack of luster (which I did notice but wasn't too fazed because sometimes 3CN in lower MS grades don't have a lot of luster) was the initial concern for him. When he looked closer he said the coin would be body-bagged for altered surfaces. He noted that the metal seemed to be pushed up around the digits. I noticed it afterwards but didn't think anything of it until he pointed it out. It was almost as if the last digits were sitting on a platform of metal. He thinks that it might have been treated deliberately or otherwise(? - environmental?) with acid! Wow! That would have been a BIG mistake. Oddly enough, I should it to another big dealer and he LOVED the coin! Yeah, yeah...I should have sold it to him. He's a local dealer and I see him all the time. I don't want to be known for selling problem coins.

Let me know what you guys think?



I'm pretty much outta money so any other purchase are likely to be small. I'm still looking for more ancient Judaica coins though (mainly bronzes).

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 Posted 08/16/2006  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TSOTL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's so great Prethen, thanks for the story as well as the pics. Even if I can't have them I love hearing about others latest hauls. It sounds like you had a blast.
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 Posted 08/16/2006  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coins.
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 Posted 08/16/2006  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madhandles761991 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a great half dollar!
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great haul the bust half looks real nice
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Beautiful bust half. How much did you pay for it?
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 Posted 08/17/2006  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the exception of the 1912-S Liberty Head Nickel, you did very good, I would say. Sometimes a person lets their hearts open just a little too much and end up costing them for something they could have done better by if willing to wait.
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 Posted 08/17/2006  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At the risk of being redundant, I gotta say that's a killer Bustie. I love that coin.
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 Posted 08/17/2006  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by OldDan

With the exception of the 1912-S Liberty Head Nickel, you did very good, I would say. Sometimes a person lets their hearts open just a little too much and end up costing them for something they could have done better by if willing to wait.


I agree that I spent a bit more than I really should have. What I really did was pay high retail for the coin. But, I really do like it for what it is. It's completely original (at least, it appears so to me) and is not all marked up, cleaned, scratched, etc. like I see on so many other lower grade "V" nickels. This was the best one on the entire ANA floor that I could find; although I can tell you I did not look at everyone's inventory and I wasn't specifically looking all the time for this coin.

Your sentiment is correct though. If I really wanted such a coin, I should have planned a bit better, but I don't think I'm too bad off having a coin like this for the grade.
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 Posted 08/17/2006  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The_Cave_Troll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Prethen

I think it's a common Overton-102 (can anyone verify for me?).


I agree it looks like a 102 to me too. The way to be certain is ti check if the left leg of the N of UNITED is recut slightly to the right.

Nice haul! I wish I was there.
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 Posted 08/18/2006  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dewayne76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The nickel was a little high but should be a good investment in the long run.
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 Posted 08/18/2006  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool coins. With the 1912 -s being a key date the value will always go up!
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