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New Member
Canada
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Where and how you keep you coins? Do you (recommend to) keep them at home? How do you insure them? I afraid to keep them at home but I do not trust banks anymore.
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Moderator
 United States
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Welcome! I am one of those guys who still believes that a safe deposit box is the way to go. I have had one for 4 years now, no problems. I do store some at home in a secret location that I don't think someone breaking in, would think to look there. You can insure them through your home owners or rental insurance but only up to $500 I believe. There is a company in New York through the ANA that you can go through. Not sure how much it is. More than likely based on the collective worth of your collection. It's the Government I don't trust.
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New Member
 Canada
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What happens if (or probably, when) your bank fails? Will you have access to your SDB? You should have access but...everything can happen
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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My dad made me a safe out of 1/4" plate steel. It has about 200 pounds of lead bars in the bottom of it, and it is bolted to the floor. The total weight would be near 300 pounds. I have click punched two small dimples in the door of the safe, which are almost impossible to see. The safe is hidden, and a thief unfamiliar with the house would be mighty lucky to find it.
Having noted all of that, most of my collection is not in the safe anyway!
It would be impossible for a thief to break into the house and simply remove the safe. It's bolted to the floor and weighs far too much to carry if you did unbolt it.
All safes need to be designed with hidden weak points.
The reason for the dimples is that if the lock fails or the key is lost, the safe can be breached by means of drilled holes. A pilot hole would need to be drilled then widened with larger drills. A separate key is stored in fish oil under the house in a secret location under the house. The normally used safe key is also hidden in a safe place that nobody would guess.
NOBODY would want to get under my house! There are funnel web spiders everywhere!
Look up THOSE on Google!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I presently use 5 different banks for safe deposit boxes. I highly doubt if a bank fails you would be denied access to your box though. Might be a little problem for a while but around here there has been no problem. I had a box in a bank that was taken over by another bank, closed mine after the takeover but gave everyone notice to remove their belongings. Another bank by me closed and everyone was given one year free safe deposit bank box of the same size if possible at their nearest other locations. About a half mile further but free for one year was OK with me. I do keep some of the more common collections at home. Really don't trust insurance companies to tabulate all your personal belongings. With everything you tell them in their computers and their entire employee base having access, not to smart these days. Home safes are usually not to smart if visable by anyone visiting you. Having a safe delivered to your house is sort of like advertising to the entire area you have something worth stealing. As the story is told and retold, your wealth grows substantially.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: There are funnel web spiders everywhere! ...and they are nasty buggers! Still one of the most poisonous on earth if memory serves. Congrats Sel, not only did you make my skin crawl,  but gave me an idea for a security device. I'll go to my shop and work to see if it's viable; I'll share the idea if it works. One mega scary security guard coming up! 
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New Member
 Canada
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thanks for sharing
Edited by canox 10/12/2010 7:15 pm
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Valued Member
India
265 Posts |
keep it in a safe. locked up in your home. If the coins are graded and are of high value keep them in a bank locker.
warm wishes.
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New Member
 Canada
8 Posts |
what about humidity in banks? at home I can control it somehow.
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Valued Member
United States
254 Posts |
Safe deposit box is the way to go for expensive coins. Common coins can be kept at home. I believe most bank safes are humidity and temperature controlled but don't quote me on that.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: what about humidity in banks? at home I can control it somehow.
I think we've been through this before but at my age, can't remember. Some time back someone posted that banks keep the safe deposit box areas high in humidity for preservation of paper documents. So being the type of person that has to know from the sources I visited all 5of the banks I use and asked officers about the A/C systems. All wanted to know why I am I asking this naturally for security purposes. As I told them why, some laughed at me openly. Some looked at me as if I needed some mental help. As most pointed out, no bank would have two separate A/C systems due to just not worth the cost. In most banks the Safe Deposit areas are open to the rest of the bank all day during normal hours with the exception of a barred gate at some. This means the same A/C system is being used for the entire place. And adding humidity to such a place would probably do more damage to paper products than any good. The thing to do is for you to go to your bank and you too could get some really odd looks for that question.
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New Member
 Canada
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Funny. So if the look is not odd - they do have a separate A/C :)
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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There a few sub species of funnel web spiders, and can be found widely on the East Coast of Australia. Artrax Robustus is the sub species that is found only in the sandstone ares of Sydney, and nowhere else. They are a ground spider and build web lined burrows about 3/4" to 1" diameter. These burrows often go down to the level of rubble drains. They are a very aggressive spider in the mating season, during the summer months of January and February.
The poison is neurotoxic, and is only fatal to humans and perhaps higher level primates. I have never heard of pets or other animals dying from bites from this type of spider.
When I was a kid I found one in bed once, and I had nightmares for about 5 years after that. I found one in a shoe I was about to wear, and on another occasion, when I was about 20 or so, I was about to wipe my face with a towel, and there was a a funnel web inside the roll as the towel hung over the towel rail.
This one bit me on the knuckle, but didn't get much poison into me, because it's fangs hit hard tissue. The blighter tattooed me. and I still have two small marks on the knuckle of my left index finger. The spider was captured on this occasion, and I went straight to hospital for observation but treatment was not required. The spider was confirmed as a funnel web. I later let it go!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Funny. So if the look is not odd - they do have a separate A/C :)
NO, they just think your checking out the place for a future robbery.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
535 Posts |
Quote:You can insure them through your home owners or rental insurance but only up to $500 I believe. There is a company in New York through the ANA that you can go through. Not sure how much it is. More than likely based on the collective worth of your collection. It's the Government I don't trust. I looked into an insurance policy through my homeowners, I don't recall what the price was, but they were going to require a complete inventory of my collection and have it get appraised. Through ANA you can get insurance through Hugh Woods. Their policy is $50 per year to insure $14,000 worth of coins (thats what it was last time I renewed). They do not require you to have your collection appraised. They do not require you to supply them with an inventory. When you file a claim you just let them know what you lost, so you do have to keep some kind of records of what you have.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Safe deposit box for valuable coins...definately! Or a very heavy duty safe... Common dates in your own devised container and hiding place!
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