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Looking For Value On Michigan Token?

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 Posted 10/14/2010  3:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add photogame to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi,

i am looking if someone has a reference book on token values. I seem to not find anything on the net to values.

I did find a photo and # at the cwt website
token MI 900 B - 1

1863 michigan token I.W. Prusel & Co.
schoolcraft

thankyou in advance for any help
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 Posted 10/15/2010  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry can't help with your token,just wanted to know what is cwt website? I have a few tokens I would like to check out,thanks,
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 Posted 10/15/2010  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John1.. I do not have a clue what cwt is but taking a guess I would say it could refer to Civil War Tokens..

Here is a link to a token site that I find useful in searching for all kinds..

http://tokencatalog.com/display_rec...splayRecords
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 Posted 10/17/2010  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Photogame,

A Civil War Tokens value is determined by Rarity as well as condition like any coin. Do you have a picture?

I have an old "Fuld" guide from the 60's and at that time that token was a "R-8"

Which means only 5-10 examples were known to exist.

So if you look R-8 up on ebay you will see other tokens in the same rarity level listed for around $160 or more.

You find your token here listed for $350 but it is in Extra Fine condition and it has a "Mint Error" which may or may not add value. Michigan CWTs

So basically if your token is very corroded and dug up while metal detecting your token might be worth $15-$25, if it is in Extra Fine Condition you might be looking at $200-$375, and if in Mint State it would be worth a lot more.

Hope that helps.
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When it comes to storecards, many CWT collectors collect a particular state by towns, seeking one example from each town. Others often collect by merchant, seeking an example of each merchant from a particular town. Still others seek particular stock, die varieties, die-cutting errors, occupations, etc.

Schoolcraft CWT's are paticularly rare because so few specimens are available to those who collect by town and merchant. There were but two Schoolcraft merchants who each issued three different varieties, using different reverse dies. Each of those varieties is estimated to be either an R-8 or an R-9 token. Thus, there are an estimated 25 tokens or so to satisfy CWT needs for the collectors of towns; demand driving the price up. There are many other R-8 CWT's in nice, collector grades that sell for under $100.

If a merchant issues say one R-8 variety, along with an R-2, the R-8 is, generally speaking mind you, devalued because more common examples from that merchant are available to collectors. Of course, should that particular R-8 have a rare reverse die, demand from those die collectors would increase the value of it. Many other factors, like the base metal, occupation, motif, certainly the grade, etc. can likewise influence demand and value.

Kanzinger's 2002 "Civil War Token Collectors Guide" values the MI 900A-1a at $475 in F-VF, $700 in XF and $1,000 in UNC. Steve Hayden is perhaps THE most knowledgeable dealer/collector of Michigan CWT's, particularly; and, Ernie Latter is another. Both fellows are held in high esteem among CWT enthusiasts, and they can be easily found in a web search.

One R-8 CWT in my own collection, WI 920M-1b, was issued by Thodore Racek, a saloon keeper in Watertown, Wisconsin. Saloon tokens are generally a more popular genre than hardware stores (the Schoolcraft merchant). My token, purchased for $60 in an NGC slab, is UNC and a bright brass, to boot. Yet, it was valued by Kanzinger at but $45 in 2002. Why so low? Some years prior, a hoard of these turned up. Such happenings are rare, but there's always that possibility.

As great a work as each of the Fuld books were, errors in rarity were made. There is presently an effort under way to correct and update those works. The Civil War Token Society is behind that effort.

My guess is that Kanzinger's 2002 values have increased maybe 30% or so, and even a scudzy Schoolcraft CWT could fetch $50-$100 or more, depending upon the desparation of those who might bid on one. Regardless of the condition, it's a great acquisition and could form the nucleus of a collection of Michigan CWT's ... Enjoy!

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