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Fr02 1916 SLQ On The Bay.........is It Real?

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Saw this one tonight - to me, it looks like a 1917. Your thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1916-ICG-FAIR2-...em5195c0b854
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Definitely a 1917. Good call. I saw another FR02 17 in an ICG slab several months ago, I'm wondering if this is the same one and switched hands.

edit: his price is extremely low too if it were a real 16, so it makes question whether or not he is aware. Putting the coin up at that kind of low BIN price is a good way to get the coin sold really fast before folks have a chance to report it. I had my ANACS FR02 1916 up with a BIN, and it sold for $1,100 within 16 hours.
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1917.
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How do you know it's a 1917 and not a 1916? It's too worn for me to tell.
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I informed the seller and reported it.
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All 1916 and some of 1917 quarters were type one, which basically is no stars below the eagle. The way you can tell the two apart is this:

Fr02-1916-SLQ-On-The-Bay.........is-It-Real?
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Who are these graders at ICG! That's why I don't send my coins to them. Wow@!
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If that is a 16, I have 2 or 3 1916 SLQs to buy tomorrow. Alas it is not.
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This will be a costly mistake for someone. Does ICG have some kind of guarantee like PCGS or NGC?
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http://www.icgcoin.com/Default.aspx?tabid=508


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or has questionable authenticity under ICG's internal review practices, ICG shall, at ICG's option, either (a) replace the coin, or (b) pay any difference between the current fair market value of such coin at the newly established grade and the current fair market value of the grade originally assigned to such coin.
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If I'm reading that right, it sounds like ICG would be on the hook for it.
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That's correct. If nobody reports it, it just gets bought and sold back and forth until someone like afcop13 catches it. Great catch!
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I agree, obvious 1917. It seems a lot of TPG's have trouble classifying Type 1's as 1916 or 1917, I've seen a fair amount of 1917's in 1916 slabs.
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great example tumbleweed. And to me I don't see anything as far as a date haaha. Should we contact him or report him because somebody might get ripped off... A LOT
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And to me I don't see anything as far as a date haaha

On SLQ's in this grade level, you won't. You have to depend on diagnostics to ID.
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Good to see that example still going to good use. :-) Anyways, we need as many people as possible to report it before some one snags it as a BIN. At that point, the buyer is pretty much hosed since we cant see who it is until feedback is left.

I'm almost positive this is the same example that I saw several months ago. It was also on ebay, and I recall it up for sale by Coinplus inc. I have a thread here about that one somewhere. Anyone else remember? The listing was removed after several folks reported it, but who knows what happened then.
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