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 Posted 10/23/2010  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need to ask a question. What is a YN?
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 Posted 10/23/2010  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
young numismatist
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Thanks again Adam_E. I take it your one of these? Well all I know is at 47 years of age I'm definitely one.
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yup!
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 Posted 10/24/2010  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is annoying though when I'm at a show and a dealer treats me as if I know nothing about coins. There's been many instances when I'm looking around and a dealer tries to educate me on what the different mintmarks on coins stand for or something similar to that, automatically assuming I'm an ignorant new collector. It seems a lot of people group all YN's into the "new collector" category.




Yet again what you say is sometimes true also of older people. Many dealers just like to show off how much they think they know. Many times I've heard dealers talking to elderly people saying things like "See the edges are full meaning the coin hasn't been dropped" or "That D mint mark is never in the same place on older coins" and/or many things like that.
Yet what you saying sometimes has advantages. For example at almost any coin show I've been to YN's come out with some great deals and many times free coins. They sometimes get free Albums and/or Folders, books, magazines and other things that no adult would get free.
And remember this. When your a YN usually someone is driving you everywhere, buying your food and clothing, buying you almost everything you need. And if you collect coins, again, usually it's a parents money that is doing the buying.
When your no longer a YN, guess who pays for all that?
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I'm 21 and I don't run into problems. It's probably because I look 21. Adam, throw on a beard and mustache, then they will talk with you.

I know a few of you guys are in the teens, but you are much more experienced than me.

I would much rather go with Adam_E or Wheatguy to a show rather than my dad who embarrassingly asked a dealer at a show yesterday: "What are those?" Dealer: "Buffalo nickels." Then that makes me look bad to be with him!







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Yet what you saying sometimes has advantages. For example at almost any coin show I've been to YN's come out with some great deals and many times free coins. They sometimes get free Albums and/or Folders, books, magazines and other things that no adult would get free.
And remember this. When your a YN usually someone is driving you everywhere, buying your food and clothing, buying you almost everything you need. And if you collect coins, again, usually it's a parents money that is doing the buying.
When your no longer a YN, guess who pays for all that?


Good point, and I do get what you're saying. I wasn't trying to bash dealers or anything, just showing a different perspective from a kid's side. Dealers in general are pretty friendly and do give out free coins, folders, etc. like you mentioned, and I have no problems with the good ones.
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I would much rather go with Adam_E or Wheatguy to a show rather than my dad who embarrassingly asked a dealer at a show yesterday: "What are those?" Dealer: "Buffalo nickels." Then that makes me look bad to be with him!


aw man my dads like that but he tries though he got in a 3hr conversation ounce with a dealer at a show about morgans in the old west since my dad likes the cowboy era, long story short he has a better morgans than me
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Sorry, but that's just part of growing up.
I've always tried to treat youngsters with the same respect as I would a person older then me. Unless they are a jerk and that goes for older people.
The son of a friend of mine could write better computer programs at the age of seven than I ever could. He's now a freelance systems analyst who earns far more than I ever did.
So grin and bear it and as people get to know you then the respect will come.
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So for me if someone is under 18, I would consider them a YN and not want
to do any sort of selling or trading with them.

This has happened to me time and time again, I hate it when people that are older than me say its not okay to deal with me. its really unfair


The law, nationwide I think, involves the ability to contract, usually at 18.

Youth (Y) sells a hundred ounces of gold over a year or two. Price goes up $300 an oz. Y goes to the dealer, says "here's what you paid me, I want the gold back." Dealer is out $30,000, period. Very much possible real-life scenario.

The solution is a co-signer, typically a parent, who actually makes the transaction. The dealer can then go back on the co-signer for fraud, etc.

In practice, everyone trusts Y not to do something like that, and most Y know if they did, so one would deal with them later.

I'm assuming everyone here has heard of Q David Bowers. He had to get a co-signer the first time he wanted an ANA table.

Unfair? Not in the least. PITA? You betcha!

Not letting a six year old kid play bingo for cash prizes at a carnival? Kinda stupid. Brat loved playing bingo.
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 Posted 05/26/2012  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enoilgam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in my late teens and I would consider myself to be a young numismatist. When I go to auctions I am the youngest by at least 20 or 30 years.
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Most YNs I've met are pretty savvy, the age bracket I think of as YNs are 15-26, any person under that is a kid numismatist and usually between the ages of 12-14 they become interested in other things such as the opposite sex, other than coins. If numismatics survives beyond the early teens, YNs are very knowledgeable about their chosen specialties and may have esoteric interests in the hobby. This is necessary for the future of the hobby and we should encourage any YN we come across.
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YN to me is a newbie collector ( NC ) and that can be any age.
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I think that it is not right that you call 14 a kid collector. I am 14 and have been seriously collecting for the past few years. I am defiantly the most knowledgeable about coins in myfy amily and haeven taught my coin dealer a few things. I really hate when people don't treat me equally just because I am younger, I do like the benefits though. :) like getting free coins at coin shows.
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 Posted 05/26/2012  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't remember sho said this but some famous person said it is a shame that youth is wasted on the young.
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