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Let me start by posting this link to the PCGS photograde for the quareters. http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Washington/GradesBased on these pictures, how is that MS68 quarter even listed as MS? The reverse looks like complete crap and the obverse isn't nearly as good as the MS67 (maybe I'm wrong?). To me it also looks like the MS66 pictured has the best reverse detail out of them all. So what I'm getting at is, is it just me? Or does this not make any sense? |
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The reverse is probably just a weak strike.
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I tend to buy my graded coins in lower grades sometimes in au range. For me all depends on eye appeal.
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I've noticed, on the pcgs website, that the highest grade coins are frequently toned. Check out the Mercury dimes, the 67 is much nicer looking than the 68 and 69. Precisely why I don't like slabbed coins. Eye appeal becomes a factor and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Pricing becomes ridiculous on the highest grades because some 'pro' says so. |
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I did notice that the coins seem to be rainbow toned, but the strike is so poor. I just don't see how toning makes for a better grade then the quality of the strike? Is this typically true?
Would you grade a toned coin higher then a non toned/better struck coin? I'm asking this from a new collector's point of view. I understand that some people pay more for the toning, but I didn't think that it gave the coin a better grade...
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I think PCGS puts too much stock in eye appeal (read: toning) on high grade coins.
That being said, a weak strike doesn't necessarily preclude a coin from earning a high grade... although their MS68 example does have a VERY weak strike.
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Ok so that helps me a bit. The MS68 example just shows weak strike? Cause to me that looks like wear.
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The reverse looks like complete crap and the obverse isn't nearly as good as the MS67 The difference between the 67 and 68 is a small bagmark on the neck just below the jawline on the 67, that is what kept it from making 68. I guarantee that the MS68 example looks better in hand than it does in that photo. Toning can have a tremendous effect on photographs, especially mottled toning that is on that coin. As an aside, the pre-cello mint sets used cardboard holders that tended to impart nicely colored but mottled toning, that quarter may have come from a mint set. If you doubt the grade, I challenge you to find some contact marks. I bet you can't see any as should be the case with an MS68 coin but I can find them on the 66 and 67  |
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Ok so that helps me a bit. The MS68 example just shows weak strike? Cause to me that looks like wear. It's not wear because most of the difference is in the low spots of the coin.. look at the bottom of the eagle's wings near his feet. No way that would wear before his breast or head. It's definitely a (very) weak strike... and I'd prefer the 67, and probably the 66 for my collection. (Not to sell though, hehe) |
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I'd like to thank you two for your information.
As canadanz said, I would also rather have the 66 or 67 for my collection purposes. I was just curious is all. I don't think weak strike coins are as eye appealing as strong strikes and I thought that played a big part on PCGS grading.
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With Washingtons, and this isn't necessarily the case here, luster tends to outweigh strike. The books and grading standards will tell you strike is important, but in my experiences, it's often disregarded. How do others feel?
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I'll be keeping an eye on this one. I've got so much to learn about the different type of grading for different coins.
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what about finger prints? where do they come in?
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lol they have a 1919 SLQ in the 1925-32 section.
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Posted 10/23/2010 4:04 pm
