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 Posted 10/30/2010  2:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coin Chaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I need help in identifying this coin. Thanks for any help.

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I had trouble uploading the scan I wanted. Thanks again.
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 Posted 10/30/2010  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is a Roman Provinical of the emperor Severus Alexander 222-235 AD. It was minted in Nicaea.
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 Posted 10/30/2010  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the HELP much appreciated.
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 Posted 10/30/2010  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have purposely stayed away from trading in ancient coins like these (or any ancient coins: 1550+ years old etc...)because my perception is that these coins are extremely difficult to grade.

My opinion (whether right or wrong) is that these old coins lacked tight tolerances on their dies therefore creating multiple shapes and stamping styles for the same coin.

1) I would like to know if this particular coin appears authentic and what its approximately value in today's market would be.

2) I also would appreciate any feedback on my above comments since I probably have passed up some very good deals on old Roman coins in past auctions.

3) If someone could indicate what ancient coins to avoid because of past repetitive counterfeit discoveries and what ancient coins to search for hitting the jackpot etc., I would be most appreciative.

Thanks
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 Posted 10/31/2010  01:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mpdmedia: Basically, I agree with you. Nevertheless, ancient coins get sold just like any other numismatic material.

The situation must come down in the end to "caveat emptor". In Real estate, otherwise translated as 'buyer beware'. The obvious proviso is that there is no attempt by the seller to deceive.

So it comes to grading, but dealers still have to sell their stock, so they are obliged to grade, especially if an item is not illustrated. This grading becomes part of the overall description of the coin.

It often comes down to eye appeal with ancients, and the buyer makes his decision realtive to the overall description and the price.

Personally I like to see all ancient coins in the hand before making a decision to buy, except that if the dealer has a top reputation such as Heritage.

I have bought Roman and Greek gold from top London dealers in this manner. These coins were negotiated beforehand with photographs. This is why you can buy from the top auction houses with confidence.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grading for ancients is only very loosely applicable. It's completely pointless trying to narrow something down beyond a vague very fine or fine. Everything depends on "eye appeal" and "strike", which can be a mix of wear, details on flan, completeness of flan, blocked dies, celator ability, crudeness of strike, and many other factors.

Grading is really pointless now-a-days anyway when nearly everything is sold with the aid of a picture.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As others have already said grading is not really of much use nowadays when everything is sold with a picture, not as good as seeing the item in hand but at least buyers can form their own opinions rather than trust a grade.

As far as values go its just like any other coins - supply and demand. A common, perfect coin of Constantine will be worth less than a barely recognisable coin from say Quietus. Constantine minted 300 million coins during his reign while Quietus was a usurper and minted very few.

Its too big a field really to suggest good areas to look for profitable coins apart from maybe concentrating on the coins of emperors who ruled for a short period of time - fewer coins means a higher value.

As far as the fakes go unfortunately nobody really knows how big the industry is. Fakers seem to concentrate more on the higher value more recent US coin but as good fakes are so difficult to find in Ancient coinage due to all the variations coin on coins who knows!

I had hoped to help but think I've just answered a question with a question!
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10/31/2010 09:24 am
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 Posted 01/12/2011  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me ATLEAST VF-preferable EF-it doesn't have to be very rare,just very nice condition with patina-not zapped
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