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Glues/Adhesives That Are Safe *around* Coins.

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So I need to find some kind of adhesive/glue/epoxy/etc that is inert and safe to be around coins for an indefinite amount of time.

Im thinking something as simple as "hot glue" may work.

other options might be "shoe goo". however, its made of toluene and petroleum distillate, so that might break down over time.

Any ideas?
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 Posted 10/30/2010  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm... Hot glue might have the least vapors and such. I've also found that hot glue can sometimes be more dependable than epoxy depending on what you're gluing down.
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 Posted 10/30/2010  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd advise against gluing coins to album pages no matter how safe the glue advertisers say it is.
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svslav, LOL
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Even high quality, good brand adhesive 2x2's are leaving a residue over time specially in silver and nickel coins. Oddly enough, copper coins, no matter how brilliant they are, are safe from that sort of damage (I've observed in five years of using 2x2's)
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So I need to find some kind of adhesive/glue/epoxy/etc that is inert and safe to be around coins for an indefinite amount of time.


You did mean AROUND coins, not on them of course. By this I suppose you mean your planning on gluing something together with ocins inside. Regardless of how you use any glues around coins the smartest thing is to contact the manuafacturer of any such product. People here or almost anywhere, unless they work for such a conpany, can and may say anything without knowing the actual results. If you do always ask for customer service or tech support. Be explicit as to your intentions on using their product and you may want to state thie conversation is being recorded for legality purposes.
For the usage of any adhesive note the primary method of usage is something will evaporate from the substance during curing. With many such products, this process may continue for an extensive period of time. For example note on many of the epoxy containers that it will set up in 5 minutes but allow 24 hours for complete curing and/or hardening. Some plastic glues for model building have an odor for days meaning a gas of some type is being emitted.
Regardless of your usage of any product near coins or any item for preservation purposes, contact the manufacturer.
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Ok, so I dont have a lot of experience with chemicals, compounds and their effect on coins (near them). Given the Wiki article about materials that "hot glue" is made from can anyone comment on ones to stay away from and ones that would be safe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-me...terials_used
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Is it an application where plain old Elmer's Glue will work? That stuff is as close to edible as any glue I've ever heard of.
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As I mentioned and as noted in that Link you gave, you really have to be carefull with products used on or near coins. Actually you should be carefull of what glues you use anywhere.
For example I used to think the world of epoxy glues on many items. A few of my solar lights got broke from high winds so I used an Epoxy glue to put them back together. Made by Duco and they really should mention not to use outdoors. Where used on the plastic of the solar lights the glue turned yellow and became opaque. You never know it seams.

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Is it an application where plain old Elmer's Glue will work? That stuff is as close to edible as any glue I've ever heard of.

Now that is something I should have thought of. They even sell that in the stores for kids to use so possibly could and may have been digested by kids. So sure can't hurt coins.
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Oh, there's a lot of stuff that kids are around, and sometimes it's geared towards the kids, and sometimes some kids try to digest, but I wouldn't have my coins anywhere near that stuff.
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I don't know for sure but good old silicon may be the answer depending on what you are doing. I have seen it used around copper pipes with no apparent problems. Never seen it used on silver.
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so possibly could and may have been digested by kids. So sure can't hurt coins.

I guarantee it, I remember a kid in my kindergarten class who would eat that stuff all the time
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so possibly could and may have been digested by kids. So sure can't hurt coins.


Yea, but there is a lot of other things that meet this criteria that I wouldn't let anywhere near a coin.
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Hmm still never really got a good answer on this.

What I was trying to do is glue together two pages of an album. I already tried with a Shoe-goo type epoxy, so I'm gonna give it a few weeks of just sitting. Its pretty odorous even after 24 hours, so we will see I suppose.

I would love for BadThad to comment, this seems right up his alley.
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I used to use hot glue on my flips to seal them as much as I could. I never saw any adverse effects from it. In fact I still have some coins that are sealed that way. But I have been steadily going through them and breaking them open to put the coins inside Kointain holders, then putting that in a flip and then putting tape around the edges of the flip. Yeah, its a tiny bit of work and its certainly not completely air tight but it does have a couple layers of protection against the environment now.

Obviously I cant guarantee hot glue is safe, I can only attest to my own use of it. And as someone suggested your best bet is to contact the manufacturer directly and ask direct questions declaring clearly what you intend to do or use it for.
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