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This is why your Mom told you to keep your nose out of other peoples business.  Seriously, Do you think this one may be VF-15?   |
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VG10 Details/cleaned/corroded
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VF-15?
howd you come up with that?
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This might help you. It's from PCGS.
PO-1 Identifiable date and type
FR-2 Mostly worn, though some detail is visible
AG-3 Worn rims but most lettering is readable though worn
G-4 Slightly worn rims, flat detail, peripheral lettering nearly full
G-6 Rims complete with flat detail, peripheral lettering full
VG-8 Design worn with slight detail
VG-10 Design worn with slight detail, slightly clearer
F-12 Some deeply recessed areas with detail, all lettering sharp
F-15 Slightly more detail in the recessed areas, all lettering sharp
VF-20 Some definition of detail, all lettering full and sharp
VF-25 Slightly more definition in the detail and lettering
VF-30 Almost complete detail with flat areas
VF-35 Detail is complete but worn with high points flat
EF-40 Detail is complete with most high points slightly flat
EF-45 Detail is complete with some high points flat
EF-45+ Detail is complete with a few high points flat. Superior eye appeal.
AU-50 Full detail with friction over most of the surface, slight flatness on high points
AU-50+ Full detail with friction over most of the surface, very slight flatness on high points. Good eye appeal.
AU-53 Full detail with friction over 1/2 or more of surface, very slight flatness on high points
AU-53+ Full detail with friction on only 1/2 of surface, extremely slight flatness on high points. Positive eye appeal.
AU-55 Full detail with friction on less than 1/2 surface, mainly on high points
AU-55+ Full detail with slight friction on less than 1/2 of surface, on high points. Eye appeal is good.
AU-58 Full detail with only slight friction on the high points
AU-58+ Full detail with the barest trace of friction on the highest points. Superior eye appeal.
MS/PR-60 No wear. May have many heavy marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-61 No wear. Multiple heavy marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-62 No wear. Slightly less marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-62+ No wear. Still slightly above number of marks/hairlines, strike may not be full. Attractive eye appeal for grade.
MS/PR-63 Moderate number/size marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-63+ Average number of marks/hairlines, strike will be close to average. Good eye appeal for grade.
MS/PR-64 Few marks/hairlines or a couple of severe ones, strike should be average or above
MS/PR-64+ Very few marks/hairlines or a couple of heavier ones, strike should be average or above. Superior eye appeal.
MS/PR-65 Minor marks/hairlines though none in focal areas, above average strike
MS/PR-65+ Very minor marks/hairlines though none in focal areas, above average strike and eye appeal
MS/PR-66 Few minor marks/hairlines not in focal areas, good strike
MS/PR-66+ Very few minor marks/hairlines not in focal areas, very good strike with superior eye appeal
MS/PR-67 Virtually as struck with minor imperfections, very well struck
MS/PR-67+ Virtually as struck with very minor imperfections, very well struck with attractive eye appeal
MS/PR-68 Virtually as struck with slight imperfections, slightest weakness of strike allowed
MS/PR-68+ Virtually as struck with very slight imperfections, the strike must be virtually full. Eye appeal must be very good.
MS/PR-69 Virtually as struck with minuscule imperfections, near full strike necessary
MS/PR-70 As struck, with full strike
Now, each type of coin has it's own grading standards, this is just to show you the Sheldon scale (1-70)
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Edited by vermontensium
11/01/2010 9:54 pm
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Thanks for your opinions. I was using the grading guide in the Red Book. It is obviously not as detailed as your posted list. Adam_E if you look at the Red Book list you would see where I was coming from. As I said I know nothing at all about these so all advice adds to my understanding. thanks very very much. |
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are you sure its not F-15?
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Pillar of the Community
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sorry, I didnt mean to sound rude in my first post, it was more of a question then a bash
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I'm affraid that I would have to say VG details also.
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I'll go VG-10 details with edge corrosion.
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Rest in Peace
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Thanks again to all. Adam_E I didn't take your comment as rude, I think we are all trying to learn here. I was just explaining where I guessed F-15 from. I suspected that there had to be more detailed info somewhere but I am not quite yet to that level. In fact the Red Book almost seems too easy, with such big jumps between grade guidelines. Next stupid question. What does the word "details" after the grade mean? Is that just a code for major problems? If a coin looks like F-15 but has "details" would it be called "F-15 Details" or would the grade be lowered and then called something like "VG-10 Details"? The main reason I ask is to learn, not to imply in any way that I doubt your opinions. The dumbest question is the un-asked one. |
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G, VG, F, VF, EF, and AU details means that it WOULD have been that grade, the wear would be light enough to be that grade, but corrosion, a hole, ect. holds it back. in this case- corrosion. in the case in the picture below-the hole. it would have VG or F details, but the hole brings back the grade.  photo taken from http://home.comcast.net/~reidgold/d.../page_6.html |
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Posted 11/01/2010 9:49 pm
