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Georgius III Del Gratia 1819, And A Strange Item?

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 Posted 11/16/2010  5:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add and_one to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi guys new to the forum and know nothing about coins, I found a box of coins in my grandmothers house and thease two items stuck out.

the 1st has a head facing to the right with the enscription "Georgius III Del Gratia" with 1819 directly under the head. The other side has a sheild on it with the enscription "Britanniarum Rex Fid Def" sorry for the low quality pics.

http://img261.imageshack.us/i/dscf0982z.jpg/

http://img251.imageshack.us/i/dscf0984kh.jpg/

the second item is strange I am only assuming its a coin because it was in a box full of coins any help would be great. Again sorry for the low quality pics.

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 Posted 11/16/2010  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, and_one, and welcome to the forum.
I'll try to address the first "coin" and leave the "two-bone" token for someone else.

What I see through the fog of the pictures looks like the half sovereign design with the appropriate legend. Why don't you check the diameter, it should be 19 mm. But I actually do not expect it to be necessarily that because I do not believe it's a real half sovereign.
First of all the halves were gold, your piece doesn't look gold.
Second, more important, no half sovereigns were minted in 1819 - they skipped a year. Which makes me think that nobody did intend to fool anybody with it.
Oftentimes card counters were made in the image of high value coins, but those are usually cruder than the originals.
To say more about your artifact people would need to see a clearer picture of it.
Good luck with your quest!
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G'day & welcome,
clearer pics would be a great help; also dimensions - diameter & weight.

1819 - looks like a half-crown, which is silver and has a diameter of 32 mm and a weight of 14.1 g - please check.
but it could be a silling: weigh about 5.7 g and have a diameter of 24 mm; or
a sixpence: weight 2.8g and diameter 19mm;
- the designs were similar.

can't help with the other one.

Peter in Oz


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 Posted 11/16/2010  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Following up on what Peter said, it could be a halfcrown.
Here's one I've just sold:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MESOX:IT
Any similarities?

As for the two bone?
You need someone with a lot more knowlege than me.
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OK, now I believe I see a Garter around the shield. I agree with Peter and alganbagerap that most likely it is a halfcrown (that explains the date).
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clearer pics would be a great help


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 Posted 11/17/2010  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin- definately silver coin designs- 6 pence, Shilling, half-crown, crown.

My thoughts on first seeing the other- figure on the right slanted- a 1 in Western numbers, the horizontal- a 1 in Chinese/Japanese script- some sort of a counter or identification piece- a token type of issue, not a coin.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first impression on the second object, is a button.

I suspect that whatever it is, it's not a coin, token or anything numismatic. I assume the other side is either blank or identical to the first side?
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Th 1st item is the same as alganbagerap has sold Thanks :-)

the 2nd item, well don't think its a button to be honest, its solid no holes in it at all and yes it is blank on the other side, jst thought I would see if any of you guys knew. long shot I know Thanks for all the help so far.
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