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During my journey to India I couldn't resist to buy a lot of coins without actually knowing anything about them. Coming back from the trip I inmediatly checked out the internet and the various catalogi to identify all the coins which eventually took me some hours... Still 2 have remained unidentified, obviously anyone who is a little bit into the Brittish India coins knows that the 1 Rupee 1862 has endless variations of all sorts, ranging from different mintmarks to really small details. Also the 1 Rupee 1840 is rather difficult to identify exactly, so hopefully some of you guys here can help my once and for all to say which is which and what is what  Now to the pictures and some remarks: Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 3/0  Is that the right one?   Type B Bust means: Obverse 4 1/4 Buste Type II Reverse means: 1 Top flower is closed. 2 Appears like bud 3/0 Reverse means: 3 dots above flower? Can someone confirm that, I can post the entire list from Krausse for the ones who don't know anything about this coin, just reply and I will post it! I really want to disclose this for myself, since it has been some months now...  I read this website for few hours, really helpfull information.. but I want to know for sure! http://britishcoins.indian-coins.co...2_rupee.htmlAt this moment my guess is: KM# 473.1 RUPEE 11.6600 g., 0.9170 Silver 0.3438 oz. ASW Obv. Legend: VICTORIA QUEEN Note: Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 3/0
1862(b) Rare -- -- -- -- -- Hier staat ie tussen! 1862(b) -- 7.50 12.50 16.50 32.00 Note: Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 1/0 1862(b) -- 12.50 20.00 40.00 80.00 Note: Type A Bust, Type II Reverse, 0/2 1862(b) -- 12.50 20.00 40.00 80.00 Note: Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 2/0 1862(b) -- 12.50 20.00 40.00 80.00 Note: Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 3/0
1862(b) Rare -- -- -- -- --Note: Type A Bust, Type II Reverse, 2/0 1862(b) -- 5.50 7.50 12.50 30.00 Moved to World Coins forum -SapEdited by Kingz
11/19/2010 8:24 pm
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I can't help much because I always find it difficult to decipher coins with 1862 on them. Thought I would at least add some information to the thread..
If you didn't already know, there are so many varieties of coins with 1862 on it because the coins were issued from 1862 to 1874 with "1862" on it. And minor modifications were made by the mints to differentiate the years the coins were issued. 12 years of coinage was issued with 1862 on it because it took that long for the British mints to create as many dyes with the changed design. The change in design was necessary because before 1862 all coinage was issued with East India company on it. In 1858, the company was absorbed by the British crown and the first regal dyes were sent to the mints on 1862 which they continued using until the process to create and distribute regular dye updates were put into place around 1874.
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Looks like an Obverse B(4.25) and Reverse II. Not Reverse II a because the bud on top of the second E does not have the pineapple like middle petal. It only has two. This is a R-II-A http://britishcoins.indian-coins.co..._rev_2a.html It has 3 beads at the top so it is a 3 and I cant find any in the bottom so it is a 0. As far as I understand, the "note:xxxxxxxxxxxx" is at the bottom of the coin type. Since yours is a Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 3/0 the value of that is 1862(b) -- 12.50 20.00 40.00 80.00 Note: Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 3/0 What is rare is Type A Bust, Type II Reverse, 2/0 1862(b) Rare -- -- -- -- -- Note: Type A Bust, Type II Reverse, 2/0 |
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Thanks for the reaction! However I'm still not sure about everything though, for example were is the coin minted... is it a Royal Mint, for there are no mint marks on the coin? But so far I was right with the identification? is it definitely this one: 1862(b) -- 12.50 20.00 40.00 80.00 Note: Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 3/0 ? Sorry, Kingz, but cutting-and-pasting large slabs of text out of copyrighted books is not allowed; it can get the forum into serious trouble. If you want to read it, buy the catalogue. |
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From what I see, yes you have the right type(Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 3/0) identified. Or this could be a Type B Bust, Type II Reverse, 0/3. Looks very much like http://britishcoins.indian-coins.co...im/b2n3.htmlMay be others will confirm it too. Edited by brokencompass
11/19/2010 5:11 pm
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Thanks mate, I appreciate your input, I will show you the other 2 silver rupees I bought as well (total for 3x 1 Rupee was something about €12, I guess that was a good bargain + 1 free smaller coin by choice) 1 Rupee, 1840 - Queen Victoria (young)  1 Rupee, 1944 - King George VI  I have 2 more Milled coins, but I will save them for later, probably tomorrow Also a whole bunch of 1/4 Anna's and some weird looking coins from the '60 & '70 (But I don't really enjoy those as much heheheh) Edited by Kingz
11/19/2010 8:26 pm
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Queen Victoria coin is #458.2 in my opinion because of the 28 berries, WW Incuse and the large diamonds
The George VI coin is 1944(b) Inc. above BV 4.50 10.00 20.00 (It does not have the Type II reverse since the concentric layer of petals don't touch each other)
3 coins for 12 euros is a great deal! May I ask where in India you got them?
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Hey brokencompass,
thanks again... although I figured those out with some other dutch guys a while ago, I do have another coin which we did not 100% identify, but I know it's from Pushkar! ( Iwill post this one later, really bad picture have to wait till the sun comes up).
I bought the silver rupees in this topic in Bundi, we travelled to Bundi by Motorycle from Pushkar! That was pretty sick, considering I don't have a driverlicense of any kind LOL! Made it alive after all :)
I also bought some other stuff everywhere we came, Old Delhi ofcourse, Varanasi, etc.
In hindsight I shouldve bought much much more! Maybe coming year :)
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Wow....now this is what I call an information laden thread....I love it... |
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It was a little bit too information-laden, I'm afraid. I had to edit one of Kingz's posts above, that had large amounts of text from the Krause 1800s catalogue quoted verbatim. Quoting little bits is fair use, but quoting large slabs is breach of copyright.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Yeah sorry guys, Didn't really think about the copyright thing... My bad, wil not happen again in this manner! Back on topic, I told about the other 2 coins... unfortuanetly I was to late snapping a picture during the day / sunlight, so will have to do for now with crappy picture taken inside (but hopefully will do the job) PUSHKAR 'Milled' COIN:   Is it 1 Paise: Km 39 ?And 1 George V? Coin from BUNDI 1929:   1/2 paisa uit Bundi Y#15.2. ? if anyone could verify my findings, that would be awsome! Edited by Kingz
11/20/2010 12:12 pm
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For your two Indian States bronzes: #1 isn't milled, it's hammered. Jaipur state, paisa, in name of Shah Alam II, KM# 39, the regnal year is worn but I think it's "36", making it equivalent to AD 1795. #2, the ID is basically correct, but I'd read the date as VS 1982, or maybe 1983, rather than 1986. If you want to attract more attention to particular coins, start new threads for each coin. An expert in Indian States copper coins might not think to look for them in a thread titled "1 rupee 1862".  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Thanks again Sap, your right ofcourse! I should make sepperate topics about it, and regarding the information you gave I shall look into that more closely... really helpfull!
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