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Whats going on with this one? Thanks for your help,John1       
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Strange.  |
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struck through (a) foreign object(s)
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Looks like someone tried to cut it with some kind of cutters or something to me, most likely a pair of anvil pruning shears or something very similar. Look 'em up on google for a picture. Flat on the bottom, sharp on top. Since it has damage on the front and back, I don't think it could be a struck through. Just my guess....
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11/26/2010 10:31 am
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if they tried cutting with those why would the reverse lettering and memorial not get damaged?
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Looks damaged to me. They are pushed down straight into the coin, especially the S in STATES. The RI and UM also so signs of being flattened. Also the rim damage is a good sign of PMD. I can't see how something would cause a struck through on this coin. It would have to be wrapped around the planchet before being struck to make impressions on both sides of the coin, and I'm thinking that would jam up the feeding mechanism on the press. |
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I think this is PMD. Something cut into or squeezed the coin that had a hard sharp edge on one side and a flatter softer edge on the other side. The hard sharp edge cut into the coin and the softer flat side moved metal but didn't obliterate the letters. The sharp cut was made into the reverse first and then the coin was flipped over and rotated before damaging it again. Notice how the flatter damage on the reverse pushed metal into the cut on the reverse. If this were a struck through error I wouldn't expect to see that. Just my opinion. |
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One would have to assume some kind of PMD, but why don't they line up? The skinny and wide lines do not align when the coin is flipped. If there were some kind of cutting/vise job on the obverse, where is the resulting damage on the reverse? And, of course, vice-versa. Worst case, John, you can put it on ebay as another Christ on the cross error for $60K! |
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Scooby, they do line up. The thin deep cuts line up with the shallow wide cuts on the opposite side.
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I see. I wasn't looking at them that way. Thanks.
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They do line up perfectly. Remember, the bottom of the obverse lines up with the top of the reverse, because that is how US coins are oriented, with the reverse upside down in relation to the obverse. (Unless you have a rotated die of course!) |
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I was lining up wide-to-wide and thin-to-thin.
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Whoever is selling that infamous Morgan on ebay is right here in my backyard somewhere. Oldsmar is about 10 minutes from me. |
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Scooby, doesn't that mean you could save shipping and just pick it up. You have the upper hand over all the other bidders now.
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The coin subject in this thread is post mint damage - no question about it.
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