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 Posted 11/30/2010  09:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nattwell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
im stuck on these I would be grateful of any help.
1,10 grams non magnetic.
2,3 grams non magnetic
3,light magnetic.
4,3 grams non magnetic
5,6 grams non magnetic.
all the coins are silver in colour.
many thanks

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 Posted 11/30/2010  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom one is a British farthing, the size and weight consistent. Supposed to be copper, though bronzed, gilt, or silver proofs exist.
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 Posted 11/30/2010  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin 4 is Crispus.

Roman, 323-324AD CRISPVS NOBIL C - BEAT TRA***NQLITAS.

I think the mintmark is PLON meaning it was made in London.

Examples here with shop values here: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ca...ar=461&pos=0

A couple of years after this coin was minted Crispus was tried on the orders of his father Constantine and executed. Its unclear why this was done but Constantine also had his second wife murdered shortly after, Crispus was the child of his first wife. It was suggested at the time that they were having an affair but this was never confirmed. Whatever they had done was serious enough for Constantine to evoke 'damnatio memoriae' meaning their names were never again to be mentioned and all records of them were to be destroyed.
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 Posted 11/30/2010  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First two are obviously ancient Greek but I dont know enough about them to say much more.

I think the third one is from South Africa but cant find any other examples to confirm this so I may be barking up the wrong tree!
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 Posted 11/30/2010  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1 appears to be a tetradrachm of Seleukid king Demetrios I, dated Year 159 Seleukid Era (= 153 BC), similar to this example on Wildwinds. However, at only 10 grams (tets should be 16 grams or so), and with the overall graininess of the coin (and especially the patch on the obverse), I'd suspect this one was a tourist fake; there are other known fakes of this type.

#2 resembles a Roman Republic denarius. At 3 grams it's a little light (it should be closer to 4 grams), but I don't know how accurate your balance is. I can't quite read the inscription on the reverse, to be able to confirm the date, but there appear to be only three horses pulling the chariot - a configuration known as a "triga", which is less common than the biga (2 horses) or quadriga (4 horses). This example is a fairly common type that has a triga; the type is also known to be faked.

#3 is a piece of play money.

#4 is what bobbyhelmet said it was.

#5 is a farthing, as svslav said, and should be copper. Given the pitting, this one is either a poorly cast fake or had a "silver" plating which is corroding away in spots.
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the two 2 1/2 shilling coins are from the transvaal on the obverse ther is a bust of kruger with the legend Z.A.R.i have the full set from 1/2 penny to 5 shillings.
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 Posted 12/01/2010  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the two 2 1/2 shilling coins are from the transvaal on the obverse ther is a bust of kruger with the legend Z.A.R.i have the full set from 1/2 penny to 5 shillings.

The 2 1/2 shilling "coin" (coin #3) is the same on both sides; the OP has posted both sides of it, not two separate coins. Further, the ZAR halfcrown has the coat of arms on it, not denomination-in-wreath. Finally, at only 15mm diameter, it's way too small to be a genuine halfcrown, from anywhere, and it's slightly magnetic (meaning it's made of or plated with some kind of steel or nickel alloy, not silver). It is, therefore, a piece of play money.

And, the ZAR didn't make halfpennies either, so you don't have one of those.
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 Posted 12/04/2010  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Getas75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No 1 is certainly a cast fake. Try checking the rim for traces of a tell-tale joint mark: it is where the two moulds come together. The joint is rarely perfect, allowing a thin seam of metal to leak out. This is often, but not always removed by the counterfeiter.

To be truthful I don't like the look of nos 2, 4 and 5 either, as they all seem to have suspiciously porous surfaces, but I can't be sure without seeing the actual coins.
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Ya,the Seluekid a copy.#2 is a Appuleius Saturnius I'm thinking.Nice coin
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 Posted 01/12/2011  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#2 is actually roman I think-about 100BC.Helmeted Roma/Saturn in chariot.My guess
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