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Austrian Coin 1752 - Real Or Fake? Help Needed!

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 Posted 12/07/2010  5:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kingz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Someone on the local internet auction is selling this coin, but I would like to know if someone recognises this as a real or fake coin...!

I read somewhere on a forum that the readers digest put out an article in the 80's that included a copy of this same coin. I know that the seller is / was a coin collector, and I have bought at him 1 time before... but I'm sceptical this time...So can anyone spot it?

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 Posted 12/07/2010  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, found it, supposed to be a ducat, KM# 1725.2, 98.6% gold. For a gold piece looks kinda iffy! Is this the seller's pictures?
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 Posted 12/07/2010  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought the details of the hair and eyes were rather crude.
If it helps, here's the obverse of a certified Ducat from 1765.

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 Posted 12/07/2010  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The eye on the coin on top doesn't look like the eye on the second coin. JMHO.
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 Posted 12/07/2010  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I read somewhere on a forum that the readers digest put out an article in the 80's that included a copy of this same coin.

Maybe you read about it right here on this forum.

That old thread has pics of my two RD replica ducats; one has "COPY" stamped on it, the other does not:

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Yours looks to me to be a good match for my one on the left.

And don't be too harsh on the seller; they probably don't know what it is either.
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 Posted 12/09/2010  04:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kingz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys, aan yes these are the sellers pictures... (is an older man, who is selling his collection of old coins)
So I can presume it is not a copy, then I think I will buy it for €5 :)
And hope for the best...!
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 Posted 12/09/2010  06:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Um, no, you can assume it is a copy. Both of mine are. A genuine ducat would have $150 worth of gold in it.
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 Posted 12/09/2010  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kingz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm such a sucker for these things.... thanks for saving my butt Sap
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 Posted 12/14/2010  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kingz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I confronted the seller with the information provided in this thread by you guys, so I said that my conclusion is it has to be a fake one. The seller indeed agreed that it "probably" would not be a real coin, but could not confirm where he bought it. However people are still bidding on it...

Luckily I'm smart enough to ask the experts opinions on it, before I buy it :)
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 Posted 04/18/2012  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alexsair to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I have this coin in my possession now.
I would like to know the history of this coin and its value, I bought it in an acution just yesterday, so any info will be most gratful.

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 Posted 04/18/2012  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi alexsair, welcome to the forum.

Without seeing a pic of your actual coin, it's impossible to be sure, but replica 1752 ducats are so common, it's a near-certainty that any "Austrian gold coin from 1752" encountered at random is going to be one of these replicas.
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