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New Member
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I`ve had this coin since 1978 its never been graded (except by me) again please prove me right/wrong and something that is new to me VAM ? What is this variations or? thank you for your help oh I`m at ms-64/65 choice this one has the concave brest. the only reason I havent set a strong 65 is because of the luster and on the reverse the o in of has a gold center and between the feather and the a in america there is a gold spot ? if anyone is interested I can try to get a good pix of it People People where is the logic? if this coin is AU it was circulated from the bank to a safe deposit and only taken out the 5th thursday after Thankgiving on every other even year and the mark on the reverse was when little johnny dropped it when gramps let him hold it please reconsider or explain why the low grade Thank You for your time and patience. Image:  MVC-001S.jpg36.87 KB Image: MVC-003S.jpg49.97 KB Image: MVC-005S.jpg40.12 KB Image: MVC-006S.jpg31.06 KB Image: MVC-006S.jpg71.3 KB Image: MVC-008S.jpg72.65 KB Image: MVC-013S.jpg36.54 KB Image: MVC-015S.jpg25.64 KB Image: MVC-016S.jpg35.47 KB Edited by pateio
09/01/2006 11:19 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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hmm, not the best pictures to grade by, but from what I can see I beleive you overgraded it quite a bit, I beleive it may be a MS-62 and just maybe a MS-63 but I dont really think it would go higher and definately not a MS-65 in my opinion. Now for the VAM part of the question, even though my collection intesrest is everything 1878 VAM, these pictures just arent good enough to even start to attribute which VAM it may be |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I say AU58 to MS60
Nice coin
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Although the pics aren't quite enough to offer a specific grade opinion, I would be almost positive that it's a circulated coin based on what I can see.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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OK from the NEW pictures, it is definately Circulated and the logic behind it is all the details are wore off in the eagles breast and in the hair. If this were a 1880-O or something like that I may say OK its a weak strike, but this is a 18787, they are NO weak struck 1878 Morgans. This coin would be lucky to make the AU grade in my opinion after seeing the new pictures. I was really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and just think the pictures were just horrible and not show the detail well, but after seeing the new ones, I can clearly see the detail or lack there of. You say there is no way it could have been circulated because you have had it since 1978, well you have to remember, there is a 100 years there that it could have very well been circulated and from the pictures I would have to agree that it was circulated and not for a shot time either, I think it has bought quite a many loafs of bread at the local corner market before you received it in 1978, maybe even before it ended up at the bank for the last time before you received it. It just looks like it has been pocket change some time in the past to me
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Bedrock of the Community
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if you ever want to see what a real MS 1878 really looks like just let me know I have a whole collection of nothing but 1878 Morgan VAM's |
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I stand... humble before the Master , would it be worth submitting?
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Bedrock of the Community
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if you think you are correct and you feel it could go a 64-65 sure go ahead and ship that bad boy off to ANACS, I would also pay for the attribution (not sure what they charge at ANACS) because it could be a very rare variety (I just cant tell from the pictures) and maybe a capped die of some sort, or Struck Through Grease or something that made the strike look so weak. So if you think your coin could be any of these things I mentioned then by all means submit it, I would go with ANACS first though just because they are the cheapest and they attribute every known VAM, and if it does come back as something like that and a high grade it will be a learning experience to all of us, if its not it could also be a learning experience for you and help you in grading future coins. Lord only knows how many coins I first submitted when I first started because I just "knew" they were High grade coins only to come back AU and it taught me quite a bit, maybe this can teach you and maybe even help me and everyone else that has responded to your thread. I am in no way a "Master" or expert, especially when it comes to grading, I do however know allot about 1878 VAM's but am not even an expert in that field Edited by Bryan1315
09/02/2006 12:12 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would have to say AU55-AU58 but definitely circulated,I have never seen a 1878 Morgan that was weakly enough not to have breast feathers.
Edited by TLS5933
09/02/2006 12:27 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm even less optimistic. AU50 due to the extreme wear. Looks like this one was used as a "worry stone".
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New Member
United States
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I think what your seeing is the smudges and scratches on the loupe I will try to get better close ups thanks again
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