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Finding Major Mint Errors. Need Help Please

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 Posted 12/18/2010  10:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Snazzypit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have been collecting Major Mint errors for a few months now and I am having some difficulty finding them. I go to many shows and if I am lucky I will find a few at a show that aren't insanely priced. Another place to acquire these type errors is ebay, but generally you pay pretty close to what you are supposed to on ebay, there aren't many deals to be had.

When I say major mint errors I mean off center, double struck ect. Most coins that do not fit into regular rolled coin.

My fist question is, how do these errors make it out of the mint. I assume some of them have gotten out of the mint via a mint employee. Are all the others escaping the mint in bags of coin, for instance the $25 State Quarter bags.


As for Rolled coin, what are the chances of finding major errors in rolled coin. I have looked though probably 6k worth of Presidential dollars with no luck, and now I have a hoard of obw cents and nickels from the early 60s. IS there a real chance of me finding any major errors in these rolls. Have major errors been found in rolled coin. I do not expect to find something good every time I look, but once in a while would be nice .
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 Posted 12/18/2010  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back a few years ago you could buy bags of sealed coins from the mint. In these a lot of the error coins were found that would not fint into rolls. Sometimes people that work at coin wrapping stations would find them and save them. But not the mint sends out big pallets of coins and send them to the federal coin locations to be wrapped with the strict order to return error coins back to the mint to be destroyed. So fewer error coins are found. Off metals, Cuds, minor off centers/broad strikes can still fit into the rolls so they can be found. Thus the errors found now are more limited.

In the 1960-1964 D cents there are a lot of RPM varieties and doubled die can be found. So look closely and save anything different till you know for sure what they are.
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 Posted 12/19/2010  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snazzypit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks coop for the info. I was wondering if I could still find some errors in these rolls. Much easier to find OBW rolls then the bags, and if you find the bags, there is huge premium.

I know you can buy quarters in bulk directly from the mint, but the min order is 200K quarters. I think they only have this for ATB Quarters and pres dollars.

Is anyone aware of a good soucrce to purchase bags of coin?
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 Posted 12/19/2010  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The State Quarter 100 count boxes were a joke. The quality of coins received that once was too many times for me. The way the coins looked after flopping around in the bag made me think the mailman must have used my box as a tambourine. LOL
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 Posted 12/19/2010  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snazzypit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish they still did it with cents. Maybe we'll get lucky with the 2011 coins
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 Posted 12/19/2010  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The point is that they are trying to have no errors. That why there is such a demand for them.
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Coop is correct as to why the errors aren't getting out, but there are two other reasons as well. The Mint stepped up their quality control abd added another stage or two of riddlers for the coins to go through after striking. This removed a lot more of the off sized errors such as clips, off centers, broadstrikes etc before they ever leave the mint. Then since 2002 they have been changing their presses from vertical strike presses to horizontal Schuler presses. With the vertical presses if a planchet doesn't get dropped into th collar properly, or if a coin isn't ejected out of the press it could sit on the collar and bounce around eventually getting back in between the dies. This could cause off-centers, multiple strikes, broadstrikes etc. But with the horizontal strike press if the planchet isn't in the collar it falls out of the press (gravity works). This means the only way to create an off-center is if the dies happen to come together before the planchet has fallen completely out of the way. Double strikes would be almost impossible because how does the struck coin manage to levitate there in the press until the dies come together again instead of falling out? So the horizontal strike press GREATLY reduces the major errors by itself, and then the extra QC measures reduce them even further. Then finally the Mints requirements that errors found during rolling be returned to the mint reduces them yet again.

This has resulted is a great reduction in th number of major errors on the market dated after 2002. As for the older ones after nearly ten years, most of them are now tucked away in collections so fewer and fewer are coming onto the market.
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 Posted 12/20/2010  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USMCLion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good info Conder, Thanks!!
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