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 Posted 12/21/2010  11:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MoonRacer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

Not sure if I'm in the correct forum because I don't collect US coins, but long story short, I submitted my 1909 cent to PGCS for a free grading and it came back non capsulated with a sticker comment "Planchet Flaw". So, my question is "Is this good or bad news?".

Thanks for your comment(s).

P.S. I found that beat up coin in pocket change and north of the border.
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3. Planchet Flaw - Raised metal, missing metal, peeling metal and annealed planchets are just a few of the mint made flaws which, if large enough, will disqualify a coin from encapsulation.

Grease in the dies, clashed dies, die cracks and die scratches are another story. The grading services will almost always grade coins with these problems, even if they are rather severe. However, if these problems detract from the coin's appearance, the services might lower the final grade by a point or two.



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 Posted 12/21/2010  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kingz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe you have a picture of the coin in question, that might be more helpfull to determen what kind of flaw it is.
And if it might be worth something after all, I don't know how this grading buisness is being handled so can't really say more. But I bet you some folks here will help you :)
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 Posted 12/21/2010  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoonRacer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lincoln Wheat cent.

It is beat up. Probably grade at G6 or VG8
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I am dropping this in what I believe to be the more appropriate forum.

"Planchet Flaw" is not a feature which would cause PCGS to fail to slab your coin. Some other factor must have presented itself - corrosion, alteration, cleaning. There should be a numeric code, somewhere between 90 and 100, if I recall, which will define why they refused to grade.
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 Posted 12/21/2010  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoonRacer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Alsmost a decade old number, but yes there is one (I'll provide tomorrow).

Thanks
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what does it normally cost to get a coin rated?
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Not sure why you would pick that coin to send in to a grading company, but whatever works for you. You do realize that it would be worth a maximum of a few dollars even in the holder...right?

PCGS will not grade coins that have flaws, even if they came out of the mint that way. NGC will grade them though, with the perfectly logical understanding that they did come from the mint that way. I have never undestood the rationale of PCGS in doing things the way they do.
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Quote coppercoins : ....but whatever works for you
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As I said in my original post, free grading. That is why.
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 Posted 12/22/2010  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Free or not, it'd be a waste to send a G or even AU 1909 Lincoln to PCGS for grading. A good rule of thumb, "free" or not, is the coin should be worth at least $150 after it's graded.
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 Posted 12/23/2010  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoonRacer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quote: ....Free or not, it'd be a waste...

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Well, I somewhat disagree. It's fun to have some noodle-scratchers. I have a few "wt heck, why?" coins, but I never spent the $$ for certification. I can just imagine the grading company employee looking at the paperwork!

Anyway, the non-slabbed number is 2431.93/21180712

Thanks for reading,

MR
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 Posted 12/23/2010  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoonRacer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. What is meant by 'Holdered' ?

For code 93, it should have been encased in a holder?
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I dont know if I am correct on this. I think that PCGS not to long ago changed its policy of what they will holder and wont. It use to be any of the codes listed they would not holder the coin. As of this time for code 93 they would holder it, at least thats what I have read.
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 Posted 01/03/2011  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoonRacer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct.


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This coin was submitted prior to our genuine program being introduced. The coin was submitted prior to 2008, if the coin was sent in now and was graded the same we would place it into a genuine holder (as long as it does not go through our Secure + line).
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