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 Posted 12/27/2010  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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"I agree completely with the original poster and although I understand the underlying intent, I think the post threshold is excessive. Then again, if those are the rules... So since you guys own the basketball, I guess I have to play HORSE, even if I'd prefer PIG. The trouble is, I find myself unable to meet MY quality post standards very often. To me, this is not one. Regarding grading posts, well, I learn a heck of a lot more reading the consensus of others in private than venturing my own guess in public and I shiver to think of the responses if I say VF for something that's G (I've seen many posts that are not exactly tolerant of novices or controversial posts). So here's my challenge to all: put 50/100 to a vote. The new year is a good time and democracy is a good thing. BTW, I'm not looking to sell anything."

+1!!

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 Posted 12/27/2010  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its just the fact that the spammers never stop coming (the forum blocks like 50 a day) to sell crap, 50 posts can not be enough, we NEED the 250 post rule. after the 250 post rule, I haven't seen any sellers scamming. before I saw a seller sell 5oz silver bars and never send them out after the payment being sent(like 10 people lost over $150). I think that the forum wont want to have to handle that again. most of the new members think that its unfair and it'll take MONTHS to get the 250 -even 50- post mark. it actually goes by really fast. I have been here for a year on December 31st and I've already gotten somewhere around 2500 posts. if you stay here, it will happen.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the 250 posts, sure it takes a while but, isn't that true of just about anything worthwhile. I increases my respect for those I deal with and I hope when I someday reach that number my reputation will shine through also. Keep up the fine work moderators and others I appreciate it, and I sure most others do also.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So here's my challenge to all: put 50/100 to a vote. The new year is a good time and democracy is a good thing.


This is not a democracy. It is a private forum. Your presence here is not a right; it is only possible through the permission of those who own and run the forum. This is a well-established status with substantial legal precedent, not subject to negotiation.

With the legal part out of the way, here's the real point:

The 250-post limit is there for a reason. We were forced to do it by the actions of people who want to rip you off. Lesser numbers of posts didn't cut it. This is not a theoretical problem - it's something we have to cope with on a daily basis. You don't see it, because we get them before they hurt you.

You're forming judgments in the absence of all the facts.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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"Adam is correct. You will get over the 250 mark quick. Try grading some of the coins as people post them. It will give you practice and give you another post."

Again I say....I mean no disrespect here, I am just asking......BUT! (Don't you hate a big "but"?)
Adam is not correct,(if I am reading the rules correctly), until I get 250 quality posts I can not post anything. I know why this is, I myself fell prey to an e-bay scammer. He sold 50 or more worthless coins all for under $10 until he got a positive rating of +50 then started selling very pricey coins,(like the 1770 Pillar Dollar he scammed me with). By the time I discovered the coin to be fake and tried to return it he had over 30 negative feedbacks and was shut down by e-bay. If I send someone on thisd forum money for a coin, it is nice to know they have alot invested in their name here.....meaning 250+ posts. What I don't understand is if I can reply to a forsale post, why can I not post an ad for a want to buy? Is it because the person that might reply to my want may not have 250+ posts? Is it too complicated to say that you must have 250+ posts to respond to a want to buy ad? I am just asking.

My main line of collecting is Copy and Couterfeit Pillar Dollars. I don't know the coin grading system and would not want to even try to grade someone elses coin from just a picture. I am very sure that when someone posts a question on this forum, the last thing they want to have to read is a post from a guy w/less than 100 posts saying "Yes, I agree with the last 7 posters, its a MS-69".

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"as for "running out of material - after posting most of you interesting stuff", you could comment or offer opinions on other peoples questions or coins, without posting anything about your own. often it fun to let it (your comments) be about someone else."

Yes, I agree. But like I said in my original post, There are experts on here that really know their stuff. I do not want to look like a fool or have my opinion shot down, that does not help the guy asking the original question. Also, I work 40 hours a week, I have 3 kids 16 to 9 years of age, I have 3 horses to exercise, 2 dogs and a diabetic wife that have to take a daily walk........I have just a short shot here and there to catch up on what is going on here on the forum. I was shocked to get up this morning and see 15 replies to this post!

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"Stick around, learn, and make your own observations, odentheviking. As others have stated, it won't take you long to pass the 250 mark. Just don't expect to get any "quality" posts out of the "never-ending story" forum, lol."

Point Taken!

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"Nope, it's not negotiable. Sorry."

Thank you, I do love a short direct answer! If that is the answer than I accept it with no issues. I will post when I can and offer good quality posts and wait my turn. I will earn my right to post here like everyone else, at 251 posts.

But I would be willing to bet there are a very large number of people that joined this forum, put on a few posts and asked a few questions, maybe even they got over 50 posts like me, but got frustrated with watching the for-sale and for trade ads. Because their somewhat limited scope of collection never came up,(maybe its stuff that most of you over 250 posts guys have in your junk box!), and they just gave up and went back to e-bay.

Thank you for your consideration, Respectfully submitted, Paul.




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 Posted 12/27/2010  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First, I appreciate your communicative attitude, Paul. We've had this conversation with other people before, who were far less interested in understanding and far more interested in making us run the place the way they wanted us too.

Those people post elsewhere these days.

Second, as near as I can tell you can post a WTB right now if you wish. There's a thread currently open in the "Want to buy" forum from a member with 53 posts. The 250-post bar is for selling offers, for the exact reason you've already proven to understand.


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You must have at least 50 posts and have been a member for at least 14 days to post an item to buy. You must have at least 250 posts and have been a member for at least 90 days to sell an item.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But I would be willing to bet there are a very large number of people that joined this forum, put on a few posts and asked a few questions, maybe even they got over 50 posts like me, but got frustrated with watching the for-sale and for trade ads. Because their somewhat limited scope of collection never came up,(maybe its stuff that most of you over 250 posts guys have in your junk box!), and they just gave up and went back to e-bay.


You are probably right with this comment. I have well over 1000 posts & almost never see anything I would be interested in buying.....& most of the items I would like to buy are snapped up before I see them. I don't have a problem with that because IMO the primary purposes of the forum is to gain knowledge & communicate with people that share the same interests.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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IMO the primary purposes of the forum is to gain knowledge & communicate with people that share the same interests.

Exactly! Kinda like "Let's talk about the true meaning of Christmas"!

The purpose of this forum is not to be a marketplace. It's just a perk for the members. To become eligible for sales should not be one's goal. If you have nothing to offer except your coins, nothing to learn except the amount of your profit, this is probably a wrong place.
As for seeing coins going by, there will always be coins, and some coins still will go by even when you're already eligible.
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We have all been there, and soon, you will have 250 quality posts.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiepb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, 250 isn't really hard. I've been a member for just over 5 months and hit my 250 in just under 5 months. I also agree that the main reason for signing on isn't to sell, it's to learn. I've learned quite a bit already. There are some very knowledgeable folks on here.
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