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 Posted 12/28/2010  01:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add texastjs to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I have had 3 unusual coins given to me by my dad when I was a kid that I am trying to determine if they are actual coins, patterns, fake, commemorative?

#1 1863 2 cent - it is the size of a silver dollar?
#2 1857 Half Cent - it is the size of a silver dollar?
#3 1888 3 cent - it is the size of a half dollar - is silver/nickel in color?

Can you help?
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if they are all that big then you have fakes, can we see pics?
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I will try to post pictures of them sometime tomorrow night. I did not expect such a quick reply, but thanks. They sure look real and are old and worn. It has been suggested that they are patterns, but no size is ever mentioned.
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I will try to post pictures of them sometime tomorrow night. I did not expect such a quick reply, but thanks. They sure look real and are old and worn. It has been suggested that they are patterns, but no size is ever mentioned.
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you said that the 2 cent and Half Cent are the sizes of silver dollars and the 3 cent is the size of a half dollar, am I mistaken?
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 Posted 12/28/2010  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texastjs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are correct.
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Fantasy reproduction pieces is what you have I think.
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I will try to send pictures late tonight. Someone went to a lot of trouble to make these. I thought I read , years ago, that patterns or dies are different sizes?

Thanks.
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these arent patterns, though.
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I thought I read , years ago, that patterns or dies are different sizes?

No, patterns are usually the size they expect to actually make the proposed coins - that way, the officials can see what it would look like as an actual coin. In many mints in the 20th century (I'm not sure about US mints), the first step in designing a new coin was to make a large plaster model of the design, which would then be copied on a reducing machine, but such pieces would be even larger than a silver dollar.
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I thought I read , years ago, that patterns or dies are different sizes?

At some world mints patterns would be made as piedforts, the same diameter as the proposed coin but twice the thickness.
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this is what the coins look like (none of them are the size of a silver dollar though). I know the dates are not the same but the design is the same. If you look here http://home.roadrunner.com/~kbr1315...sco7070.html you can see the relative size of the coins compared to others you may know the size of
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Here is one compared to a silver dollar.
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Other side.

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Sorry I have had trouble editing but I think I figured it out now. Had camera problems also. Here is the better picture to get an idea.

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