| Author |
 Replies: 13 / Views: 1,089 |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
880 Posts |
What would you grade this? http://cgi.ebay.com/Toned-1954-S-JE...em4838dae171I'm curious how much the soft strike takes away from this coins grade. There are a couple of marks on the obverse and seemingly less on the reverse, but not enough to take away from the hair detail. That's why I'm assuimg the lack of detail (steps and hair detail mainly) are from a weak strike. That being said, can this coin get MS65? Or am I right by saying maybe MS63? |
|
|
|
Moderator
 United States
16679 Posts |
I don't think the strike is strong enough to make 65. 64, maybe. I would bank on MS63 all day long though. So many of these 50's Jeffersons were plagued with weak strikes. I'm sure the TPG's know this but would still take it into consideration. swcoin.ecrater.com
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
I agree with vermontensium this coin is a 63 all day and on a good day it could see 64 , but it was not just the 50's, the 30's,40's and 60's were all a problem for full strikes, it wasn't until the relief was changed that the nickels actually began to get fully struck on a regular basis.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
2589 Posts |
The late 60's were aweful, especially the sanfrancisco mint. I've seen BU 1969s nickels that have absolutley no detail in montecello on the reverse yet show no signs of wear to the actual coin.
-XoG
|
|
Pillar of the Community
 United States
880 Posts |
Doesn't it almost look so sad that you want to buy it? Haha... maybe that's just me. I still think it's a semi attractive coin.
|
|
Moderator
United States
15473 Posts |
I say it is for sure MS ...... there were horrible strike problems in the Jefferson series prior to 1987.
I call this MS63 .......
David
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
880 Posts |
Dave I've respected your opinion so far ;) haha, let me ask you this then. Since these coins aren't that expensive - for someone trying to complete a nice MS set of Jeffersons (myself) do you jump on a coin like this or really keep an eye out for one with better strike?
I'm going to hold out, but that's mainly because of price. This coin does not warrant $30 - not even close to that in my opinion.
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
19964 Posts |
My guess is MS-63. The color is very attractive, I like it and it will command a premium. Does CDN publish prices for these? I don't see the Jeffs listed in my copies.
According to the other guys, you probably won't find a much better struck coin in MS. If you like it, buy it! I think it'd look good in an MS collection....great eye-appeal.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
880 Posts |
I don't think there's a greysheet for toners, but they do have MS Jeffersons. I only have access to the buyer version:
MS62 - $2.30
MS63 - $2.80
MS64 - $19.80
MS65 - $40
I originally gave this an MS63 and I think a lot of people are also saying that's what this could be. Seems to be the more common grade for this year. Steep jump in price from 63-64 (which is another sign of weak grade/strike?). And you would be right about the toning adding a premium. Still not sure I can pull the trigger on this one. I'd like it better at about $15-$20
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
19964 Posts |
Whoa....big jump at 64! Well, let me tell you that luster plays a big role in grade with the TPG's. I've seen a LOT of stuff forgiven by luster. This coin looks like it has blazing luster, it just might be a 64 with a TPG. I agree with you, $15-20 wouild make more sense. |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
4989 Posts |
MS-63 strike will hold it back from getting a 64 there are plenty of nice slabbed 64/65 examples with better strike on monticello
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
958 Posts |
With any coin thats ungraded that a person is thinking about buying and guessing at what it will grade at by a TPG service Even if the coin is flawless,looks like it just came off the mint and never touched by a human hand With a weak strike its not going above ms-65 Thats the requirement form 65+ to 70 it has to have a FS. Atleast that what I read on PCGS 65+ and above |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
880 Posts |
Well as I'm finding with a lot of people selling on the bay... If you don't ask you'll never know. I offered the guy $20 for this coin and told him I'd buy 2-3 other of his coins for asking price.
I explained why I thought $20 was fair and he responded that this was one of his personal coins from his collection and deliberately placed it high. So that if it didn't sell, he didn't feel bad. He said that he'd sleep on the offer and get back to me.
Sometimes you just never know... I will keep you all informed
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
19964 Posts |
Nice...indeed...it never hurts to ask! :)
|
| |
Replies: 13 / Views: 1,089 |
|
Posted 12/29/2010 3:01 pm
