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I am currently storing my coins in 2X2 folders that are in 2X2 coin pages which are all in 3 ring binders. I staple the folders carefully to make sure the staples are not to close to the coin, and to make sure the stapler does not touch the coin when being pressed. The thing I never thought of until now is, is it possible for the staples to damage the coins that are in other coin pages behind them? For instance, can a staple that is not piercing through, damage another coin that is 3 layers of plastic away (one layer being the back of the sheet it is in, the second layer being the front of the next coin sheet, and the third being the plastic that is part of the 2x2?

If so, is there a way to prevent this damage? Is there a safe material to insert between the pages of coins, like felt or something?

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One thing that will help is getting a "flat stapler",one that leaves the staple ens flat rather than crimped.I believe I got mine from Wizard Coin or Valley coin,can't remember which. If you use that stapler and put them in the 2x2 plastic pages,you should be fine.
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You need to crimp the staples flat (using pliers or special flat staplers that coin supply houses sell). The more common issue is folks who store their 2x2s in boxes, as you pull one 2x2 from the box, you scrape the face of another coin. (Did this address your question? I wasn't really clear what PART of the staple you were worried about.)
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Yes, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Hockingzig and Specksynder...
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This is a good topic, as I've had the same concerns about 2x2's. In my case, it is stacking 2x2's that have me scared to death.
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I've mentioned this before. Don't use staples at all. Use clear tape lkke 3M clear tape to seal 3 of the edges. So much cheaper, easier to slice open with a pen knife, no staple damage to other coins, no messing around with purchasing a special stapler.
Take any of your 2x2's after stapled shut. Now try blowing into one of the ends that normally opens and you will see that your breath goes right through. Well then so does gasses, humidity, etc. Now tape those ends shut and try the same thing. Note your breath can not get through. Also, the 2x2 slides more easily into those slots for 2x2's in those plastic pages that hold 20 of them.
Of course if you get staples free from somewhere, have lots of spare staplers, don't care about damaging coins, keep on using them.
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Good point Carl, I never thought of using tape. The coin doesn't slide around the 2x2 when you just tape it?
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One more thing to consider - you could put "spacers" in between. You can buy a pack of plastic sleaves for pretty cheap (in Walmart), they have holes for 3-ring binders and a sheet of paper slides inside. On one hand you have protection between coin pages, on the other hand you can put all sorts of info on these pages.
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That's another good idea, thanks Svslav. That's kind of what I meant by putting something like felt between the pages, but your way is a little cheaper and easier..
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On one hand you have protection between coin pages, on the other hand you can put all sorts of info on these pages.

I agree with the added protection and a place to add info. However, I've never really found that I needed more space for a coins info than what fits on the 2x2 flip. And additional pages will really make a binder fill faster. I'll stick to taping.
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I store all my raw coins in 2X2 cardboard type holders. Any coin show should have supplies. That's where I bought my stapler that staples them flat. Works great.
just carl brings up a great point. Tape is an excellent idea. I have just never damaged a coin with a staple yet , knock on wood. I rarely take a coin out once I staple them in.
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I currently use a standard stapler, and pliers to flatten the back side. I always stack like size coins together to avoid the possibility of scratching another coin. I don't stack dimes next to the large dollar coins.

I also try to keep the staple distance from the edge as consistent as possible with similar sized coins. Works well with dime through nickel sized coins. Then quarter through small dollar sized coins.
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I have a slight problem with just carls' method..if the coins are sealed and exposed to heat/cold (such as mailing)they can get condensation and the moisture becomes trapped.Just something to consider as it happened to me.
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Another thing about taping is that there's no guarantee the coin will stay in the "window" - it may slide all over the place.

About putting info on extra pages - that's all I do. I prefer keeping my 2x2s blank. It just looks neater with the info printed out on a page. And those paper pages are much thinner than the coin pages so I don't worry about overinflating the binder.
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I have a slight problem with just carls' method..if the coins are sealed and exposed to heat/cold (such as mailing)they can get condensation and the moisture becomes trapped.Just something to consider as it happened to me.


actually the tape would stop condensation since if all opening sides are taped, no moisture can get in there. With staples moist air can get in. As I mentioned try the blow test with a stapled 2x2. Put an opening end to your mouth and blow. If stapled your breath goes through. If taped, not hardly. So condensation could not be in there in the first place.

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This is a good topic, as I've had the same concerns about 2x2's. In my case, it is stacking 2x2's that have me scared to death.

And that too is simplified with taped edges. Taped 2x2's lay flatter. Stapled 2x2's will always have a slight bulge where the staples are. Regardless of how you flatten them. And the more you flatten them, ther harder it is to remove the coins unless you cut them out.
With a roll of clear tape you could possibly seal many hundreds of 2x2's. No need for a saparate stapler, pliers to flatten them, running out of staples.
And opening a taped 2x2 is just a slice with any knife along the edges and the 2x2 is now also reusable.
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Well carl, they were taped completely on all sides...the ones that were not taped,dried out, the ones that were,did not.My only experience with taping was not good.
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