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would it be considered natural toning if you left some nickels in a cedar chest for a couple of years of if you wrap a napkin around a coin and let time do its work or is the artificial because I am subjecting these coins to this type of environment?
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I would think that artificial toning would have to be better defined by using some sort of chemical or heat to get fast results. Natural toning would probably be the result of a coin left in any particular storage environment. So what if you chose to store your half dollar in a cedar jewelry box for the past 15 years.
Whether you intend to get a result of some sort of toning or not does not have anything to do with whether it was intentional or not. It is still going to do what it is going to do.
That's what I think about it anyways.
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i agree with wheezy, in my opinion NT vs. AT is based on the method used and not the intentions of the collector. So IMO your coins are and should be considered naturally toned.
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thanks the hardest part of this type of process is the waiting
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I believe if you do something that will make the toning go faster it is called accelerated toning. It will still be natural toning by the conditions the coin was in since there was nothing added to make the coin tone, but there is certain toning that will only happen in time and even trying to accelerate that will not get the same results from what I have read
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MY feelings are that the terms are really vague sometimes. If you leave a coin on a table, outside in the Sun, wind, rain, snow, etc. and it tones, that could be AT IF you did it purposely. However, if you left it there by accident, it's now NT? You drop a coin in a garden and leave it there and it tones. If you left it there on purpose is it AT? You couldn't pick it up since you couldn't find it so is it now NT? Naturally if you place coins in an oven and bake them they should be AT.
The entire AT versus NT thing is just to vague. I really wonder how many people have AT coins in their collections thinking they are NT. I really wonder how many TPGS's have labled AT coins as NT or NT coins as AT. Need a new catagory of NST for Not Sure Toning.
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But NT vs. AT isn't judged based on the intentions of the owner of the coin. It's judged on how the toning looks so no matter what the intentions of the collector were if the coin loos naturally toned then it is, even if the collector's intentions were to speed up the toning or place the coin in the best possible circumstances to tone attractively.
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so the odds are good that my end results should look natural if I "use the best possible circumstances to tone attractively"
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so the odds are good that my end results should look natural if I "use the best possible circumstances to tone attractively"


HHMMMM, something like that.
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