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Does anyone here collect these? I'm probably going to sell mine, and would rather do that here where I know they'd have a good home with another collector.
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Here they are. There are a few I am still looking for the variety on. 1790 IOHN WILKINSON IRON MASTER (no dot) Edge: WILLEY SNEDSHILL BERSHAM BRADLEY (no oo mark) (date is large, but can't tell if 1 and 7 are curved or straight.. 1 looks straight, 7 looks curved, but not 100% sure) D&H ?   1792 NORFOLK AND NORWICH HALFPENNY, PRO BONO PUBLICO MAY NORWICH FLOURISH (dot) Edge: PAYABLE AT N. BOLINGBROKES HABERDASHER &c NORWICH X as D&H 14 except no dash (-) in HABERDASHER   1791 HULL HALFPENNY - PROSPERITY TO OLD ENGLAND - Edge: PAYABLE IN HULL AND IN LONDON D&H ?   1793 PRO BONO PUBLICO (Lady Godiva on horseback), COVENTRY HALFPENNY - Edge: PAYABLE IN BEDWORTH HINKLEY OR NUNEATON D&H 242 Lady Godiva side not pictured (She requires a jacket, first)  1793 PRO BONO PUBLICO - MAY THE TRADE OF SUDBURY FLOURISH - Edge: PAYABLE AT GOLDSMITH & SONS SUDBURY as D&H 38 except no dash (-) in SUDBURY   1794 TRIED FOR HIGH TREASON - J.H. TOOKE ESQ R[superscript], ACQUITTED BY HIS JURY COUNSEL HON. T. ERSKINE V. GIBBS ESQ. R[superscript] - Edge: Plain D&H 1045   1811 WALSALL HALFPENNY TOKEN - PAYABLE BY FLETCHER & SHARRATT - Edge Design /// D&H ?   1811 BIRMINGHAM AND HEATH - CROWN COPPER COMPANY ONE PENNY - Edge Design /// D&H ?   1813 HALFPENNY (Lion), (Britannia seated, wreath around) - Edge: Plain D&H ?   And my favorite: 1793 PROMISSORY HALFPENNY, PETERSFIELD - Edge: EAMES HOLLAND & ANDREWS PETERSFIELD D&H 48   |
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Wow! Those are some beautiful tokens! And in a good shape too (that's my grading of them).
I don't have any books on tokens I had no idea how intricate some of them could be.
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Beautiful specimens! Thanks for sharing.
As per your enquiry I also collect them; a subset thereof relating to various political, abolition, suffrage, anti-slavery, and those with connections to the North American Colonies.
Below please find a 1795 Corresponding Society Anti-Slavery Conder that I have in my cabinet. It is a Middlesex D&H-289d. The specimen hails from the ex-Neil Beaton Collection.
The London Corresponding Society was founded in 1792 in an effort to spread ideologies considered at the time to be revolutionary, as well as to pursue political reforms through education; methods similar to those undertaken in France immediately following the French Revolution.
The Society stressed the necessity of government by the people and highlighted the corrupt method of selection for Parliament at the time, while at the same time also advocating peace with France and for the abolition of slavery.
The Society's greatest success came in 1795 when 150,000 people attended one of their meetings in Copenhagen Fields, London.
Its obverse depicts a flying dove with an olive branch in its beak:
UNITED FOR A REFORM OF PARLIAMENT * 1795 *
Its reverse depicts two hands joined in friendship:
MAY SLAVERY & OPPRESSION CEASE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD
On the specimen's edge reads the inscription:
CELEBRATED FOR PURE AIR AND SEA BATHING
Despite a slight hairline scratch in the lower right reverse quadrant under the cuff, this particular specimen grades at F+, using the British grading method. I photographed it using an axial lighting setup with glass angled at 45 degrees. Thanks
- Cheetah
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Speaking of Conder Tokens, could anybody tell me whose bust it is on the obverse of the token Susan is auctioning right now? Many thanks! |
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the farthing token is 1793, so I'm guessing KG3. It looks reminiscent of the portraits on the 1806-series coppers. Poor old KG3 had some terrible effigies over the years.
Peter in Oz
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Thanks Peter!
The reason I asked was that on all these tokens it seems they put random people (I guess they are connected to who issues the tokens), and I couldn't positively ID the image. I thought also it might have been the Prince of Wales, future KG4.
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Can anyone tell me about the 1813 Half Penny with the lion above?
I like it and want it!
Edited by Scooby Due
02/15/2011 12:58 pm
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CheetahCats - thank you, and thanks for sharing info on yours. It's lovely! The photography is great, as well. The one token above "Crown Copper Company" was an experiment with axial lighting - it did pretty well, especially compared to the others, which were photo'd with an LED bulb. I have a Sierra Leone Anti-Slavery token, but I don't know if it's a Conder. These are the original seller pictures:   And some info I've been able to dig up on it ( from http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/Si....01.009.html ): Quote:
MacAulay & Babington copper penny token commemorating the British Abolition of Slavery in 1807. Obverse: View a British man and local native shaking hands while other natives dance round a tree in the background: "WE ARE ALL BRETHEREN", "SLAVE TRADE ABOLISHED BY GREAT BRITAIN 1807". Reverse: Arabic script which translates as: "THE SALE OF SLAVES PROHIBITED IN ENGLAND IN 1807 OF THE CHRISTIAN ERA IN THE REIGN OF SULTAN GEORGE THE THIRD", "VERILY WE ARE ALL BROTHERS". abccoinsandtokens.com : prepare to drool. Conder tokens are only a small part of what they have... I can spend hours there just looking at them. Still trying to research that 1813, Scooby, no luck yet. Anyone else know what that one is? Or any good places to research for pricing the rest? I'm looking through the above site to see what they have, but it's a bit slow going as they don't have a search. Might have to try the Google shortcut for it. |
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OK, love this topic, it is all new to me. I've just begun to collect a few tokens and I had no idea what a Conder Token was until I went to wiki. (I was surprised we had nothing in the Glossary here on CCF). Anyway, so according to wiki, strictly speaking, these were copper/bronze small denomination coins for companies, towns etc. Ones such as the abolition of slavery would not be a Conder. That is more of a question actually. Has the definition been expanded to include other denominations that 1/2 penny and penny and their original usage (as classified by THE James Conder)? And there was a reference to a cataloging by Conder, is that in the public domain?
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Great writeup on your setup, CheetahCats.. the double-pane frame is ingenious. That would keep me from being so nervous when moving the piece of glass around  Any ideas on weight maximums for the copy stand? My camera weighs in at about 2.5 pounds. What do you use the binder clips for? What's the appliance bulb wattage? The downloadable PDF at condertokenbook is good for identification (mostly - as noted, there are ones I cannot find) but doesn't have any pricing. |
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Posted 02/13/2011 08:25 am
