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1916-D Real?

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 Posted 01/05/2011  8:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this 1916D real? If so, I am looking for what grade it is, and if not, what makes you think it is fake?

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 Posted 01/05/2011  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ca Dreamin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hard to tell by the pics, but I believe it is-it would be difficult to add a mint mark to a coin that worn, and not be able to tell. As far as grade, off the top of my head ,AG.
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hard to tell by the pics, but I believe it is-it would be difficult to add a mint mark to a coin that worn, and not be able to tell. As far as grade, off the top of my head ,AG.


Exactly what I was thinking. However, the AG is rather high. Lots of beat up appearance but on a coin that rare and popular, not a big thing.
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 Posted 01/05/2011  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. The worn, blobby MM, is consistent with the level of wear an is in the correct location.
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Looks real to me, but there are a ton of good fakes out there. It's very close to G-4 as far as TPG grading is concerned, but I'd call it an AG-3. No way would it grade anything less.
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 Posted 01/05/2011  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add x78089 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MM looks good to me. AG-3 most definitely.
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 Posted 01/05/2011  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with grade!
But picture just don't agree with me for the MM.
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I do not think that the MM is real. It's too close to the olive branch. There are only four MM placements for that year.

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Hmmm. I guess if Die 1 got really squished it might be consistent...
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 Posted 01/06/2011  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys, the seller is asking too much anyways, but I thought I would try and educate myself a bit on the 16D.
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The filled d makes it really tough to tell because the best way to know is the shape of the inside of the mintmark
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Is it in a 2x2? Sometimes con artists glue obverse and reverse halves of 2 different coins together to create a valuable coin. They hope the mark won't take it out of the 2x2 to check.
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Nod, it looks good to me.

AG-3 seems most likely to me.

$650 coin! Nice!
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It is a AG-3 for sure. Where did you get it. Trade for 1877 IHC? I didn't think so.
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i was thinking the same things

con artist can remove a coin from a TPG slab or 2x2 and slip in a filed down glued together coin.
or take a mint mark from a coin and place it on another.

In this case a well worn D mark from another mercury cut out and transfered onto this one.
Glue will get eaten away with acetone , but a MM placed on with J/B weld or a industral metal to metal adheisive would not come off so eazy

Happens alot with Buffalo nickles I read S marks being applied on scare dates
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