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I recently purchased a 1905 Broadstruck IHC that was slabbed by NGC. It was housed in an older generation NGC holder. I cracked it out of the slab. I just noticed that the font style of UNITED STATES OF AMERICA as well as the date is noticeably different than that of a normally struck 1905 IHC that I have. I took some pics for comparison. Notice the indentation at the bottom of the letters on the broadstruck cent versus the letters on the normal one which are flat across the bottoms of the letters. Was there more than one font style used on Indian cents and I just never noticed it before? Is the difference somehow related to the fact the cent was broadstruck? This one has me scratching my head. What do you think?      |
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 I'm scratching my head right along with you... I would think this one would be a fake with the weird font and the obvious doctoring of the date. But why, when there were 80+ million of these minted? (There can't be that much demand for a Broadstruck mint error...) Maybe an early Pattern coin? I'm confused... |
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Bedrock of the Community
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It is directly related to excessive metal flow due to the lack of a collar during striking. Check out some late die state Capped Bust Halves, you will see the same indented effect on the bottom of the peripheral devices. Very nice uncentered broadstrike  Edited by biokemist6
01/07/2011 11:37 am
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i have one like it nice coin ,I'll be putting some pictures on today .
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nicely spotted effect on this broadstrike It had me puzzled too, but Biokemist makes sense to me. If you think about it, those indents in the base of the legends coincide with the wide vertical strokes. These vertical strokes are gaps in the die in the same direction as the metal flow. So, the legends can flow more than die details perpendicular to the flow. Edited by DVCollector
01/07/2011 2:22 pm
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There are a lot of 1998-2000 nickels with the same type of effect, a little bit more stretched out though. I would guess it is the same type of thing. Great photos too, extremely detailed and you capture the color well. Thanks for sharing.
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This makes sense to me now. Thanks for the help!
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normal die wear, very commonly encountered on Bust $1/2
There is a name for the effect, and when I remember I will post it.
Edited by TreasHunt
01/11/2011 5:59 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm pretty sure Bust half dies wear differently than IHC dies from 1905. It's really a different era as far as dies go. The legends and dates on IHCs tend to "balloon" as the dies degrade over use. The "normal" 1905 date detail above is of a later die state than this broadstrike. There are some strange examples of die wear in the 1870s due to improperly hardened dies, but it doesn't look like this either. Edited by DVCollector
01/11/2011 6:58 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I is related to the striking not die wear and the term for it is bifurcated lettering. As DVCollector pointed out it is seem at the bases of the vertical strokes that are aligned with the direction of the metal flow. Rather than flowing up into the void in the die it is easier for the metal to flow outward toward the edge of the coin. Then the letter fills from the outermost part back towaards the base of the letter. If the pressure of the strike ends before the letter fills completely the base of the unpright will not be completely filled an will show this "scalloped" effect.
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bifurcated lettering.
That's it!
Thanks, Condor.
Phew.
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