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I know that coin collecting is a hobby and one that I enjoy quite a bit. But say I wanted to also "Invest" my money within the collecting realm while still very much enjoying it. Just buying coins that are interesting and worth a lot that may go up in value that one day when I retire, I can pass on to my kids or sell for some good profit.

What would you suggest I collect. What Specific coins? And if not specific coins, what specific dates?

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 Posted 01/11/2011  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coppercoins actually had a discussion about this not long ago - interesting read:
https://goccf.com/t/76544&SearchTerms=investment
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 Posted 01/11/2011  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Casutherland to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks scooby, that was good info.
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 Posted 01/11/2011  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coins are not a good investment vehicle at all. That being said if I was wanting to buy some coins for investment purposes it would be key dates in as high of grades I could afford and if thee population of the one I could afford is 2/3 of the total mintage I would save up to get a coin in a higher grade because even key date coins that are easy to find in certain grades would not be a good investment vehicle in my opinion. Any time you want to buy a coin for investment I would do allot of research on the coin I was thinking about and then go from there but remember just like cd's its not something you would want to turn around and sell 5 years down the road, you would want to hold onto it for the long haul so buy it and put it up and forget about it until you retire. That is the way I would do it if I were going to consider coins for investment purposes
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 Posted 01/11/2011  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add palaniappan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just invest in coins which are minted presently, buy in huge numbers and keep them for a long time say 5 - 10 years, once their value increases you can sell them or exchange or swap with other collectors world over, dont collect coins from only your country. Collect coins world over, it would be fun and also a good investment, dont buy silver or gold coins, and wait to encash their value rise.

warm wishes.
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Scarce key dates rise over the long haul in line with the stock market. Marked sense... As the rich get richer they pay proportionally more for their coins. Nowadays I think you need 500 per coin for stuff rare enough to be an investment. Below that, you may see some appreciation but really the money would probably be better off in a mutual fund. For the hobby, just collect common stuff I enjoy sorting through junk bins
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One overlooked aspect of investing is whatever you invest in must not depreciate, only the key dates can claim that standard.

I can remember when many of the Morgan dollars brought moon money, that lasted until the banks found bags of them stuff away in their vaults, the morgan that cost 500.00 soon became a common coin, many collector/investors lost their shirts.

Coins with a proven track record are the 1909-S VDB Lincoln,the 1914-D Lincoln, the 1916-D Mercury dime, the 1895-P Morgan,the 1877 Indian Head cent, etc, just take a good look through the RedBook, start from the earliest copy you can get your hands on and follow the money.
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 Posted 01/11/2011  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buy ones where there will never be hoards found in vaults or in shipwrecks!

Seriously though, I would think there's some price trend data out there you could use in your decision making. I agree with the key date approach though. Who hasn't wanted a 1909-S VDB Lincoln when they first started, for example?

Keep in mind that it's a supply and demand thing. Are you looking US only? I'm thinking there might be some Chinese coins out there that 20 years from now you'd wish you bought.
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 Posted 01/12/2011  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnstac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not in agreement that buying coins presently minted is a sound investment. The mint is IMO, overcharging big time for proof/mint sets and I don't expect these to hold their value. I have been seeing a lot of selling activity for less then the issue price. That is not to say that all current issues are bad investments but as others have said, you need to be selective. Not withstanding the current silver price, low grade Morgan dollars have not moved up in price for years. Age is one factor but there are many. I like the idea of high grade silver commems with low mintages. I think the prices are providing some excellent buying opportunities. Just my .02

John
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 Posted 01/12/2011  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am with John on this one, but I'm new so don't listen to me ;). My grandfather would tell you what he's told me, only invest in the Key Dates. That's actually all he collects, he doesn't give a rat's @#$ about sets or anything. To each his own on that one though (I love my Jefferson Set).

I read somewhere that coins such as the 1856 Flying Eagle have continued to rise in price. I would venture to say that the better condition the coin is in, the more sought after it is always going to be by people with money.
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 Posted 01/12/2011  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TenSense to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you guys think about the zag method? I.e. what happened with the Franklins, when a bunch were melted so the remaining rose a little in value? (i.e. full bell lines). Does it pay to try and gauge what coins will become "accidentally" rare?

I don't really employ this as part of my strategy, but some of my coins could have that happen to them. I have seen some folks advocate investing in certain clad coins because the attention is off of them right now, because of the focus on precious metals.
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Regardless of what you ever invest in, remember that the liquidity of that is really important. You could buy a $10,000 coin for an investment but try to sell it for that. And just where would you try to sell it? On ebay? At a coin store? You need buyers for anything you have so having a bunch of coins that you can not sell easily is really not a smart investment.
Say you need money for something right now. Your money is tied up in Coins. Now what? Your money is tied up in model planes. So now what? Your money is tied up in a car collection. So now what?
Regardless of where you try to invest, remember that if you need money now, coins and similar items are not the best way to go.
People every day dump valuable coins for losses due to they need money now and sell off everything. And a dealer buys it for a fraction of what you thought you had as an investment.
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 Posted 01/12/2011  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnstac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree also. Coins should be a very small portion of your portfolio. I suppose whether that is a $50 coin or a $5000 coin would be dependent on your particular financial circumstances and liquidity but from an investment standpoint, 3 percent. For people obsessed with they hobby, that percent may vary but I wouldn't be in the hobby with investing as the highest priority.
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you cant argue with Carl--hes right!
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Good topic. I enjoyed reading the responses. Half of me likes coin collecting as a hobby, but the other half of me wants to collect coins that appreciate in value over time.
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