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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...RK:MEBIDX:IT

what would you think a fair price would be for this coin? and what would be a steal?

just interested because it does not have a definite grade listed.
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 Posted 01/12/2011  03:13 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fair price = $90, Steal = $50

Looks EF+ to me and nowhere near the AU++ the seller claims. That and the scratches noted make it a no bid by most people. It's already at $74 with shipping so I'd let it go.
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thanks for your input :) what I hate most about ebay is a lot of times the photos are not big enough nor are they clear. it is a good way to hide certain aspects of a coin.
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 Posted 01/12/2011  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Compare the ebay coin to the one below graded AU50 by PCGS.
If there's anything I see, the coin shows less dirt than I normally see on AU FEs.

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does that mean it was cleaned?
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A 153 year old circulated cent with scratches but no signs of any contamination? Yes, it likely has been cleaned.
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A 153 year old circulated cent with scratches but no signs of any contamination? Yes, it likely has been cleaned.


That would be my opinion as well. I disagree with you on the details grade - I believe it's AU and strongly-struck at that - but a coin this "clean" raises eyebrows. With that said, the seller isn't afraid to mention damage or cleaning if it's his opinion, and he *does* mention scratches on this one.

I think it's going to go for stupid money anyways. This isn't the coin to bid on.
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But you have to admit it is an exceptional FEC
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I would say it's AU-50 details. Here's an obverse of my PCGS graded EF-45. It has a little more wear on the inner wing edge. It looks like a nice coin.

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I sold this FE for $100. It has a lamination error and has been cleaned too. it's in similar condition to the one you are looking at with a great strike. The only other difference is that mine had a spot on the back too which took away some value.

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that last coin there is beautiful.
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I just bought an 1857 last week from my local dealer for $67 and I would say it was about the same grade. In today's market I couldn't see paying the kind of money this ebay penny sold for. $90 seems like a fair price.
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I know this isn't a 1857 but I gave like 50 bucks for this one when I started my 7070 album
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So unless you just want a 1857 for some reason you can find nice ones for pretty good deals in other dates
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I'm with Super, AU55. I don't see any problems to note from the pictures. Bryan, that's a beauty for what you paid!
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that is a beautiful 1858. I would rather have the much better grade '58 than the more expensive and less graded '57. what was that '58 graded anyway bryan?
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I'd rather have the '58 too.......great looking coin and looks to be unadulterated. Had one like it many moons ago but sold it (yes, I am an idiot).
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Bryan1315,
That coin is over the top, maybe it should be in a slab.
Those get really valuable in higher grades, I think you have something there.
I'm sure I'm not saying anything you don't already know though.
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