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Rest in Peace
United States
5375 Posts |
A few weeks ago I sold a large lot of Barber half dollars and quarters, and I've had a few buyers complain about their half dollars not showing up. One guy had a ripped package. Is the post office notorious for poorly machineing and/or abusing envelopes containing slightly thicker coins? I've never had these problems with dimes and such. This is pretty frustrating and its hitting me financially as I have to refund to avoid negs obviously. Thanks, Brian
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3592 Posts |
Shadow, I always use a coin mailer and insurance. The coin mailer thickness puts it in the non machinable category. Cost is around $3 for postage/insurance, but so far, not a problem reported.
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Valued Member
United States
268 Posts |
ShadowCreator, I used to work for the post office. The machines that they use run at pretty fast speeds. The latest generation of SPBS, Small Parcel Bundle Sorters, are capable of processing up to 11,000 pieces an hour.
During the end of November to early part of January. The postal service hires casual employees to augment the work force that they do have. Where I worked we had a work force of about 200 employees normally. During Christmas they would hire about 600 casual employees to work with us, due to the mail volume.
The most part when packages get torn open if the items are found. The postal service will repackage the items and send them on there way. Its a good practice when you wrap up your items you include inside, and in any smaller packages your address, and the address of where you shipped it to. More then likely the items are awaiting to go to Minnesota where the post office has a very large plant to hold lost items. If the post office cant determine who they belong to they get sold at auction. Regular Postal employees normally will not open further packages at that time but will be sent to unit who does that. If you include your address and or the persons address 10 out of 10 times either it will be sent on its way or sent back to you.
There are those people who do steal, but the percentage of them to the rest of the Postal employees are very small number. I hope this helps you out some.
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Valued Member
United States
268 Posts |
Maineman750, it does put it in the non-machinable for letter sorters not for SPBS machines. All the post office priority boxes that you can get can and do run on SPBS machines. The also run non-machinable first class mail, as the mailer on the same machines.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1659 Posts |
Are you using bubble padded envelopes or regular envelopes like what you'd send a letter in? I always use bubble padded envelopes and I ship with Delivery Confirmation (Signature Confirmation if the value is over $250). To date, I've never had a problem. <knocking on wood> 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1000 Posts |
I feel your pain  A couple years ago I sold over $400 worth of silver to someone here (I think that would be $800 today). The Shipping tube made it nearly a month later torn apart and re-tapped....Unfortunately the contents was NOT included  If it was indeed the machine that ripped my item open.....Then why in the blank did I pay extra for it being non-machinable?  Of course at the time I was cheap and did not pay for insurance. I paid for delivery confirmation and thought that was enough. Most expensive lesson I ever learned, so far 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2448 Posts |
I remember an old engineering joke: Most people joke, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Engineers joke, "If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet!" I'm sure someone will re-design a sorting machine that will not only sort over-sized coin envelopes, but make them disappear into thin air also.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Quote: There are those people who do steal, but the percentage of them to the rest of the Postal employees are very small number. I hope this helps you out some. I'm sure every postal employee is impressed upon the severity of anything resembling mail tampering. If it's helpful, let me offer a perspective. Over the years, I've mailed a lot of coins, and only one package has not arrived, which I suspect was due to the USPS kiosk recommending insufficient postage. Other than that one instance--every bit of mail I've sent has arrived--whether to the US, Australia, Canada, England, Iceland, Finland, Norway...well except for one country, but I won't pick on them.  Suffice to say--if you package coins well with sufficient postage, and many buyers come at you saying it hasn't arrived, I would be highly skeptical. 
Edited by DVCollector 01/14/2011 2:33 pm
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
I am having increasing problems in the last year, especially with overseas shipments. This is relevant, Shadow, because we're in the same area and likely funneling through the same building early in the process.
It looks like I'm about to have the second-consecutive failure to ship the same lens to two different addresses in Canada. The first time, it just came back a month later with no explanation, and the second time is already almost a month without delivery.
So far, nothing missing, but more than one coin shipment has taken an inordinately long time.
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Rest in Peace
 United States
5375 Posts |
Same here. I've had a lot of problems with the local Trenton facility (I live around that area) And btw, I refuse to insure for something around $20, the problem is that a few years ago they wouldn't charge extra postage for bubble mailers...all of a sudden they want $1.30 instead of $.44 and that adds up.
I will however mail in a bubble mailer for anything too bulky and/or over around $40, I usually insure over $100 particularly if its not junk silver.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1534 Posts |
Do you use Delivery Confirmation? It's a simple $0.80 investment that really pays off in the long run...and if you use PayPal shipping the cost is a lot lower.
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Rest in Peace
 United States
5375 Posts |
That also adds up too, besides the half dollars I've rarely had anything lost. Of course I will print a label via paypal, however, if the value is higher.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
864 Posts |
I had a small package mailed from Virginia, US, Dec 17th, left Jamaica NY processing Dec 24th, and it finally arrived to small town SE BC Canada on the 12th. It had a tracking number which could be tracked US side but couldn't track it on Canada side.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Dottir, wow...that's a long journey! I have seen delays shipping out east, but never into BC--that takes a couple days from here.
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Moderator
 United States
16677 Posts |
I use USPS because its convienant. I ship all coins valued over $10 in a 000 padded bubble envelope and have had no problems. I have noticed that some PO's charge differently for the same weight and thickness of these 'parcels'. From 88C, to $1.22. I send coins packed very rigid under $10, in a regular small envelope with the words 'non-machinable' written on the front. I also walk this to the clerk and they meter it for me. Its usually 64C. No problems to report.
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Rest in Peace
 United States
5375 Posts |
Yeah, post offices are weird. And those bubble mailers can be expensive after you use 100 of them, since they're often 40 cents to a dollar each. I guess now that I'm starting to mass sell on ebay, I'm trying to balance cost effectiveness with packaging safety.
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