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Hi all, I found this baht in a recent coin lot I purchased and the chin of the guy in the coin on the right seems to be doubled, so is this considered an error and if so what is it called and will it affect the coin value? Thanks   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Hi Amr! I cannot tell from the size of the pic whether it is " Machine Doubling" or a doubled die.  |
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Hi DVCollector, i will try to post a closer pic Edited by EgCollector
01/17/2011 7:17 pm
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Better scans  closer scan of chin  |
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The larger pics help--what do you think, a doubled die or " Machine Doubling"? I suspect it's Machine Doubling because I don't see anything to prove a doubled die For a DD, if the chin was that strongly doubled, I'd expect to see some separate doubling in the king's lips. |
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Well, I found a definition of double die and how it happens but didn't find anything about Machine Doubling and all I know is that it is more flat than a double die but don't know what cause it or what is exactly that it differs from a double die. If you could briefly explain, I would much appreciate |
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I would think if it were a doubled die with that much of a spread, it would affect more than just that one area of the coin.
I did notice a difference in the design of the top two coins. Is it supposed to be like that? Are those different years?
Seems the lettering ends closer to his hair on one and the front of the vest design appears to be different also.
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Coppercoins did a very thorough explanation of the differences between doubled dies and Machine Doubling. If I can find that article, I will post a link.  |
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I added some errows to the chin scan, I think that the yellow if not the red also may be a doubling in the kings lips what do you think? |
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Scooby Due:
dont know if they are different years or not, I have about 7 of this coin and I just took one to act as a control for comparison but I dont know how to read the date on this coin.
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If I can find that article, I will post a link Thanks for your effort |
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Do the designs look different to you? Or is it just the pics?
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I did not find that article, but I found a confirmed example of a double die on a portrait. This is a well-known Australian variety, called the 1962 "double nose" penny. Notice how the doubling is a separate image disconnected from the rest of the design in places such as the tip of the nose and the hair ribbons? On the Thai Baht, I'd expect to see doubling in other areas like the glasses, with some separation.  Look at the notched ends of the ribbons  This shows the classic notching on letters, which is not possible with Machine Doubling:  |
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Awww, thats not a doubled die, this is a doubled die   |
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Awww, thats not a doubled die, this is a doubled die  Now, that's a dramatic example! Perhaps the die blank was conical, so the outer legends were not double-hubbed. |
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Posted 01/17/2011 08:56 am
