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Valued Member
 Belarus
65 Posts |
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Originally posted by RenaL
It's an interesting way your government has chosen.
Here in Turkey we had very high inflation rate until a couple of years ago, and bread cost ~500.000 TL until 31 December 2004 (now it is 0,5 YTL=50YKr) Even then we had coins. Of course coins had a lot of zeroes too. the last denominations in circulation were 50.000, 100.000, 250.000 TL. In order to make it look a little nicer maybe, the coins had the word BiN=1000.
Belarus could mint coins with big denominations but that probably makes only us (collectors) happy :)
Right you are. I am suffering greatly without local coins and envy (in good sense) the states that have the coins in circulation. I remember the time when there were a lot of them - I mean Soviet Union. and they valued enough If I am not mistaken 1 Rouble was about 0,5 USD something like that. But the main reason why we don't have coins is that during the Soviet times we didn't have the mint in Belarus. All coins were minted in Russia and other republic. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I really met only few people during my visit to the US who knew where I came from. This is a state of 10 000 000 population between Russia and Poland, Ukraine and Lithuania and Latvia.
Thankyou vbekarevich now I know where you are. I own quite a few of the coins of the Baltic States - Lativia, Lithuania and Estonia. I used to collect topically. So I collected coins from countries that no longer existed at one time. I also collect coins that use the image of three lions - like you see on Estonia - Greenland and the Channel Islands. So now I feel a kind of linkage to your general area. I will have to hunt for the commemoratives from Belarus. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
3831 Posts |
If people ACTUALLY read, I did make a post about Belarusian coins and banknotes and the situation there: https://goccf.com/t/7876 |
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Valued Member
Belarus
65 Posts |
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Originally posted by swamperbob
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I really met only few people during my visit to the US who knew where I came from. This is a state of 10 000 000 population between Russia and Poland, Ukraine and Lithuania and Latvia.
Thankyou vbekarevich now I know where you are. I own quite a few of the coins of the Baltic States - Lativia, Lithuania and Estonia. I used to collect topically. So I collected coins from countries that no longer existed at one time. I also collect coins that use the image of three lions - like you see on Estonia - Greenland and the Channel Islands. So now I feel a kind of linkage to your general area.
I will have to hunt for the commemoratives from Belarus.
We'll see. See you in the trade section in my 30 posts.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
751 Posts |
vb,
One of my great grandfathers came from Mogilev.
I am interested in knowing more about Belarus' modern perspective in regard to its lost communities--in particular, the lost Jewish communities.
I saw that one of your commems was for the "victims of fascism". Is this an acknowledged or unacknowledged nod to the Holocaust? Or is it rather a WWII veterans memmorial?
Is there likewise a "victims of Bolshevism" or "victims of Communism" commem?
Thanks
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Valued Member
Belarus
65 Posts |
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Originally posted by texasmick
vb,
One of my great grandfathers came from Mogilev.
I am interested in knowing more about Belarus' modern perspective in regard to its lost communities--in particular, the lost Jewish communities.
I saw that one of your commems was for the "victims of fascism". Is this an acknowledged or unacknowledged nod to the Holocaust? Or is it rather a WWII veterans memmorial?
Is there likewise a "victims of Bolshevism" or "victims of Communism" commem?
Thanks
It's a really small world. My family is from Mogilev. I was born in Mogilev but in 1997 went to the capital of Belarus, Minsk to study at the University, got married here and settled here. As far as the coin is concerned this is to the memorial to all victims of fascism not only Holocaust. The images on it are the sculpture «Unsubdued man» against a background of sculpture form «Khatyn alarms»; Khatyn was a village in Belarus which was completely burned together with its inhabitants by fascists. No we don't have any "victims of Bolshevism" or "victims of Communism" commem and I doubt we will under the present government. But frankly speaking Belarusians are very tolerant to this part of our history. My family also suffered greatly from communism regime, my great granfather was killed by them (he was a clergyman), our family lost some of our property. But still we perceive communism not so sharply. I guess this is the result of different ideology in our states |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1091 Posts |
Welcome to the forum Vbekareich. I'll look forward to you reaching the 50 posts limit. You can then send me your address and I'll send you some Australian coins. I imagine you won't find many of them in Minsk.
Can you tell me a bit about your collection? What coins do you mainly like to collect, what are your interests?. Have you been collecting very long?
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09/14/2006 05:35 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
3831 Posts |
I have a set of medals, probably to commemorate the 40th anniversary WWII in Belarus:       Sorry for the stuff photo - I didn't have proper lightening at that time. And no, there is no reason why you have commemorative medals / coins of the fall of bolshvism / communism. This is something I can say, as that is because you clearly have never lived in an ex-Soviet country before and have no idea what it is. Old people in particular suffer the most when they used to enjoy pension for a lot of things. Telephone bills, electricity, water, train tickets, heater during harsh winter etc are almost all free during the Soviet era, assuming if you had decent assess to them. Now they are the ones who are lamenting that the Soviet era was a lot better than now as they really do not have much to live on. Not only do they have to pay extra bills, the government is paying less pension to them and now quite a fair amount of grannies are looking for trash materials for recycling. To commemorate the fall of communism is nothing more than an insult to the older generations who worked so hard to support the economy. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
751 Posts |
Hey, Vb (I hope you don't mind me calling you Vb) Thanks for your reply. Genealogy is a hobby of mine and I'm particularly interested in the conditions my forefathers endured. If you have any interest, perhaps you can do some digging on my behalf and I can compensate you in coins? Email me if interested. Gxseries, I presume that your comments were addressed to me. At the risk of taking this thread in an unpleasant direction, I'll make a brief response. quote:
This is something I can say, as that is because you clearly have never lived in an ex-Soviet country before and have no idea what it is.
I wonder why you attribute ignorance to me. Why not malice? It is true that I have never lived in an ex-Soviet country. One of my grandparents was born in Kiev. All of my great-grandparents were born in what was to become the former Soviet Union (back when it was the Tsarist "Pale of Settlement"), including Lithuania, Belarus, and Ukraine. Actually, one was born in London, but his parents were recent emigres from Lithuania. So contrary to being ignorant, I have done a great deal of research on where they came from and why they left. It is no accident I wasn't born in the Soviet Union--and I thank my ancestors for their sacrifice on my behalf with great frequency. quote:
And no, there is no reason why you have commemorative medals / coins of the fall of bolshvism / communism.
If I'm not mistaken, Poland has seen reason to commemorate the fall of Communism and so has Germany. I would expect to see such a coin in the Czech Republic and in many other "satellite countries". So I disagree with that premise. quote:
Old people in particular suffer the most when they used to enjoy pension for a lot of things.... To commemorate the fall of communism is nothing more than an insult to the older generations who worked so hard to support the economy.
True, the elderly are particularly susceptible to changing economic conditions. This generation may have to pass before we see widespread embrace of new intellectual and economic freedom. The word "collapse" connotes hard times to follow, doesn't it? |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
3831 Posts |
There is a major difference between countries that were "taken over" during the Soviet era and those who really believed in them. Poland and Baltic States, generally satellite states and to commemorate such event is just a liberation from such. On the other hand, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine are the predominent pro Socialists.
Perhaps another few decades later down the years, it may be suitable to commemorate such events when the country prospers from economic recovery. To release them anytime soon is just nothing but insensitive to those who did work during those era.
Papers and research in my opinion do not subtitute for real experiences. I personally have been there and the situation is not anything you will see in your life. An afternoon in Moscow is probably as quiet as the evening you have there. Imagine a night at Moscow or at other cities. It's very dead and most of the people that you see are old people haggling at prices.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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Valued Member
United States
179 Posts |
Hello vbekarevich  As you are waiting for the magic 50 post milestone  so am I... When we achieve it, I would be very interested in trading US and Canadian coins for whatever you can offer...and I promise not to mention politics, holocausts, or repressisve regimes!!!!  I also have some banknotes from Indochina and former South Viet Nam, and of course the USA which I would be happy to trade for like items from your region.  I just can't help it ...I like playing with these smilies!!!  again, WELCOME Dennis  |
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Valued Member
Belarus
65 Posts |
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Originally posted by toast
Welcome to the forum Vbekareich. I'll look forward to you reaching the 50 posts limit. You can then send me your address and I'll send you some Australian coins. I imagine you won't find many of them in Minsk.
Can you tell me a bit about your collection? What coins do you mainly like to collect, what are your interests?. Have you been collecting very long?
That\s really kind of you Thank you! |
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Valued Member
Belarus
65 Posts |
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Originally posted by gxseries
I have a set of medals, probably to commemorate the 40th anniversary WWII in Belarus:
Sorry for the stuff photo - I didn't have proper lightening at that time.
And no, there is no reason why you have commemorative medals / coins of the fall of bolshvism / communism. This is something I can say, as that is because you clearly have never lived in an ex-Soviet country before and have no idea what it is.
Old people in particular suffer the most when they used to enjoy pension for a lot of things. Telephone bills, electricity, water, train tickets, heater during harsh winter etc are almost all free during the Soviet era, assuming if you had decent assess to them. Now they are the ones who are lamenting that the Soviet era was a lot better than now as they really do not have much to live on. Not only do they have to pay extra bills, the government is paying less pension to them and now quite a fair amount of grannies are looking for trash materials for recycling. To commemorate the fall of communism is nothing more than an insult to the older generations who worked so hard to support the economy.
Absolutely? Sorry If I have missed but where do you come from? You are seemed to be familiar with our world. |
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Valued Member
Belarus
65 Posts |
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Originally posted by texasmick
Hey, Vb (I hope you don't mind me calling you Vb)
Thanks for your reply. Genealogy is a hobby of mine and I'm particularly interested in the conditions my forefathers endured. If you have any interest, perhaps you can do some digging on my behalf and I can compensate you in coins? Email me if interested.
Well I can try to find something for you. You just point out for me the direction to dig. |
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Valued Member
Belarus
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Posted 09/13/2006 08:40 am
I am behind you. There is a LOT work Have no time even to read what you all write to me. But I will be a good boy and will repair an omission. Looking forward to...
